2021 Headliners

[dentalplan]

13 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Stuff might of been in place which no longer will go ahead as usual.

I doubt there would have been many agreements that were signed on the dotted line for summer 2021 by March 2020.

[Matt42]

9 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Almost certainly, there’ll be acts who will have touring commitments into 2021 that have not been announced yet. Some will probably not be able to make the G as a result. 

 

1 minute ago, dentalplan said:

I doubt there would have been many agreements that were signed on the dotted line for summer 2021 by March 2020.

I’m a bit drunk so I will say again as I don’t think I was clear. What I mean is 2021 lose commitments being scrapped because they are competing with 2020 rearrangements. Anything not signed on the dotted line for 2021 is not a secure priority imo. They will have to make a case for it being a bigger priority than a 2020 reschedule. Which is why Glasto’s three (pencilled in) are all at risk tbh.

[Hugh Jass]

8 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

I doubt there would have been many agreements that were signed on the dotted line for summer 2021 by March 2020.

Not signed but it’s hardly a stretch to imagine the likes of Taylor and Kendrick having tour plans for the next 18-24 months mapped out. The question remains whether they are prepared to deviate from those plans to accommodate the shows they’ve lost this year.

Similarly we know for example that Arctic Monkeys and Coldplay are likely to be active next summer. They could have been based plans around festival appearances that now may or may not happen due to those slots being offered to this year’s crop.

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

Not signed but it’s hardly a stretch to imagine the likes of Taylor and Kendrick having tour plans for the next 18-24 months mapped out. The question remains whether they are prepared to deviate from those plans to accommodate the shows they’ve lost this year.

Similarly we know for example that Arctic Monkeys and Coldplay are likely to be active next summer. They could have been based plans around festival appearances that now may or may not happen due to those slots being offered to this year’s crop.

I'm sure they will, but I think acts are mostly still free to decide rather than bound by contractual obligations.

Festivals should be pretty much free to decide too, I imagine. There's the issue of honouring advance payments, but aside from that there's nothing stipulating that the acts and festivals have to link up again in 2021 leaving the Coldplays and Arctic Monkeyses without a home.

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, dentalplan said:

I'm sure they will, but I think acts are mostly still free to decide rather than bound by contractual obligations.

Festivals should be pretty much free to decide too, I imagine. There's the issue of honouring advance payments, but aside from that there's nothing stipulating that the acts and festivals have to link up again in 2021 leaving the Coldplays and Arctic Monkeyses without a home.

There’ll be no contractual obligations but I’d be very surprised if the festival didn’t offer this year’s acts first refusal on next year.

[dentalplan]

Just now, Hugh Jass said:

There’ll be no contractual obligations but I’d be very surprised if the festival didn’t offer this year’s acts first refusal on next year.

I think Glastonbury will probably retain more than others will because it books differently to other fests and doesn't have to fret about the strength of the bill as much. Nevertheless, I could imagine it being at least 30% different because of some more acts becoming available and others going ahead with different plans for 2021 or cancelling them all together.

[Hugh Jass]

2 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

I think Glastonbury will probably retain more than others will because it books differently to other fests and doesn't have to fret about the strength of the bill as much. Nevertheless, I could imagine it being at least 30% different because of some more acts becoming available and others going ahead with different plans for 2021 or cancelling them all together.

I think we’re both saying the same thing.

[dentalplan]

Just now, Hugh Jass said:

I think we’re both saying the same thing.

I think we're both saying the same thing.

[Hugh Jass]

14 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

I think we're both saying the same thing.

That’s what I was going to say...

[Gilgamesh69]

Just want Macca back

[CaledonianGonzo]

[morph100]

Didn’t t swizz say in her documentary or somewhere that her life is planned out two years in front so she can’t do anything not in plan. Wonder if she’s managed to juggle Glastonbury in for 2021?

[CaledonianGonzo]

It's not just her Glastonbury show that's cancelled. All her festival shows and the rest of her tour will probably get scrapped.

[jparx]

Aye, can't imagine the Lover Fest shows going ahead at this point so it's likely the whole thing will be moved to 2021. She does plan ahead but at the same time she's not going to just not tour the new record in USA and Europe because 2020 is written off and she has something else lined up in 2021. She will reschedule it all, just depends if it's like for like (i.e. summer festivals) or she goes for an indoor Winter tour instead.

She's spoke a lot about specifically playing the Lover tracks outdoors in the summer so my money is on her returning next year.

[jparx]

Roskilde, also due to celebrate its 50th and sharing Taylor and Kenny as headliners, now cancelled. Can't see any of their festival shows going ahead now so fingers crossed they just return next year 🤞 

[Matt42]

On 4/5/2020 at 4:38 PM, jparx said:

Aye, can't imagine the Lover Fest shows going ahead at this point so it's likely the whole thing will be moved to 2021. She does plan ahead but at the same time she's not going to just not tour the new record in USA and Europe because 2020 is written off and she has something else lined up in 2021. She will reschedule it all, just depends if it's like for like (i.e. summer festivals) or she goes for an indoor Winter tour instead.

She's spoke a lot about specifically playing the Lover tracks outdoors in the summer so my money is on her returning next year.

Yeah I think Taylor is the most likely headliner to return. 

[sisco]

7 hours ago, Matt42 said:

Yeah I think Taylor is the most likely headliner to return. 

I’m thinking the most likely is Macca.  He’s the least likely to be touring year after year so I’m expecting him to just move his whole lot into 2021. 

This could of course be blind optimism as he’s the only one I really wanted to see! 

[Mattymooz]

1 hour ago, sisco said:

I’m thinking the most likely is Macca.  He’s the least likely to be touring year after year so I’m expecting him to just move his whole lot into 2021. 

This could of course be blind optimism as he’s the only one I really wanted to see! 

Nope I agree and Macca was the one I had no interest in (Unless Kendrick has delayed his album in which case I can see him being booked). I doubt everyone is going to just postpone their life by a year and do the exact same tour a year later - Taylor would be better off doing a more lucrative and stan-pleasing stadium/arena tour next year and save the Glasto publicity boost for when she is on a fresh album cycle.

[Matt42]

You never know. Taylor might have new material by next June. She’s pretty good at churning out a record every 2 years.

[Slugworth]

I think we will get three new headliners

[Padgey]

1 hour ago, Slugworth said:

I think we will get three new headliners

That's not unlikely.  I think Swift and Kendrick may have other stuff lined up.

Also M.E. has said in the past they have had future headliners lined up, I know we all take that with a pinch of salt, but if so where does that leave Coldplay's slot for 2021!

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Padgey said:

That's not unlikely.  I think Swift and Kendrick may have other stuff lined up.

Also M.E. has said in the past they have had future headliners lined up, I know we all take that with a pinch of salt, but if so where does that leave Coldplay's slot for 2021!

Legend slot ?:) can’t see d Ross returning ...based on no knowledge  

[Padgey]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Legend slot ?:) can’t see d Ross returning ...based on no knowledge  

Good shout fool, another year on for Rossy and Macca could be 12 months too long.

[jparx]

9 minutes ago, Padgey said:

That's not unlikely.  I think Swift and Kendrick may have other stuff lined up.

Also M.E. has said in the past they have had future headliners lined up, I know we all take that with a pinch of salt, but if so where does that leave Coldplay's slot for 2021!

Apparently the current lineup have been offered slots next year, and the proposed 2021 headliners were just verbal agreements. I’d bet we get at least one 2020 headliner returning, if not all three.

What brings me back to Taylor is she specifically said she wanted to do a festival tour for Lover. She may change her plans, but I reckon she’ll be back next year.

[FloorFiller]

I'm guessing a lot of discussions will be having had with those penned in 2021 headliners and which of them will be touring in to 2022 and so still available then and which of them is a 'now or never' kind of deal. If they've got another huge name lined up (Madonna, for example) I doubt they're gonna be asking them to wait a year. Acts like The 1975 can easily just be asked to move aside and wait. So fingers crossed, if one of this years doesn't make it, they're at least replaced with a huge deal who the festival has already been in talks with.