Watching an act with dodgy a rumour about them

[CaledonianGonzo]

[H.M.V]

I'm gonna chime in here, yes we want people to listen to victims but certainly not at the expense of due process and innocent until proven guilty. Yes the law is an ass, its an imperfect system and we already have trial by media. But as was noted earlier by Mark that the landlord was hounded and harrassed by the media because he was a bit odd. That didn't mean he was a murderer. 

Trial by media is horrific for everyone and I personally would prefer for nobody to be named unless they are proven guilty. It can have an effect on a trial and the jury if something is all over media, social or otherwise. 

We also see this already where people share pictures of someone who has apparently tried to kidnap a kid from a playground with no police comments. This is so open to abuse and I shudder everytime I see those shares with no actual backup. 

 

 

[Homer]

4 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Well quite

[Homer]

Now in a quandary over Bjorn Again - decided against starting a new thread about it for the good of humanity though...

 

You're so hot
Teasing me
So you're blue but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
It's something I couldn't do
There's that look
In your eye
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl you're only a child

Well, I could dance with you honey
If you think it's funny
Does your mother know that you're out?
And I could chat with you baby
Flirt a little maybe
Does your mother know that you're out?

Take it easy (take it easy)
Better slow down girl
That's no way to go
Does your mother know
Take it easy (take it easy)
Try to cool it girl
Take it nice and slow
Does your mother know

I can see
What you want
But you seem pretty young to be searching for that kind of fun
So maybe I'm not the one

 

(copied and pasted - but on an iPhone ?)

Edited June 11, 2019 by Homer

[Mark E. Spliff]

7 minutes ago, Homer said:

Now in a quandary ...

Just go and watch them.  Even if they were the antichrist, you've already paid for your ticket so you're not adding any more to their demonic coffers.  I'd still listen to Michael Jackson or The Smiths records - I'm fairly sure it won't result in me being brainwashed into attending my local nazi paedophile coffee morning.

Denying your enjoyment of art because of some dark side of the artist is a short-cut to a life listening to Cliff Richard (unless the police were right about him after all...)  All humans will have thought, said and done some despicable stuff in their lives so striving for perfection is an impossible task.  Just enjoy the good stuff - the music, literature, paintings or whatever, and don't buy into any dark side.  And the irony here is that at the heart of the 'dark side' are the tabloid press and social media who are constantly stirring up witch-hunts by whispering to us a false mantra that the world really IS black and white, us and them, good and evil etc.

[stuartbert two hats]

9 hours ago, gherkin8r said:

Urgh. For anyone else who can't quite read that, it says 15, not even "legal" (as if that makes it ok to leer over children)

This version should be easier to read.

[stuartbert two hats]

5 hours ago, H.M.V said:

I'm gonna chime in here, yes we want people to listen to victims but certainly not at the expense of due process and innocent until proven guilty. Yes the law is an ass, its an imperfect system and we already have trial by media. But as was noted earlier by Mark that the landlord was hounded and harrassed by the media because he was a bit odd. That didn't mean he was a murderer. 

Trial by media is horrific for everyone and I personally would prefer for nobody to be named unless they are proven guilty. It can have an effect on a trial and the jury if something is all over media, social or otherwise. 

We also see this already where people share pictures of someone who has apparently tried to kidnap a kid from a playground with no police comments. This is so open to abuse and I shudder everytime I see those shares with no actual backup. 

 

 

Yep, there's a mate from school who is always sharing vigilante shit. I called him out on it for a while, after doing actual research and occasionally finding out he was sharing fake information.

His position was that if his sharing helps catch the bad guys it's worth it. Couldn't change his mind. Infuriating.

[gherkin8r]

"showed how quickly she'd grown up" followed by "looking Chest swell". 

Like a parody

[stuartbert two hats]

38 minutes ago, Homer said:

Now in a quandary over Bjorn Again - decided against starting a new thread about it for the good of humanity though...

 

You're so hot
Teasing me
So you're blue but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
It's something I couldn't do
There's that look
In your eye
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl you're only a child

Well, I could dance with you honey
If you think it's funny
Does your mother know that you're out?
And I could chat with you baby
Flirt a little maybe
Does your mother know that you're out?

Take it easy (take it easy)
Better slow down girl
That's no way to go
Does your mother know
Take it easy (take it easy)
Try to cool it girl
Take it nice and slow
Does your mother know

I can see
What you want
But you seem pretty young to be searching for that kind of fun
So maybe I'm not the one

 

(copied and pasted - but on an iPhone ?)

Whilst that's not the kind of lyric that a pop band would write today, it's not particularly* problematic - he's telling her he's not interested because she's too old. Despite leading with "you're so hot, teasing me", the girl's feelings are the focus of the song, not the old man wanting to do something pervy to her.

Bjorn is a bit embarrassed about that song, but I don't think he should be ashamed about it.

* It depends on quite how young the girl is supposed to be.

[DesperateDad]

44 minutes ago, Homer said:

Now in a quandary over Bjorn Again - decided against starting a new thread about it for the good of humanity though...

 

You're so hot
Teasing me
So you're blue but I can't take a chance on a chick like you
It's something I couldn't do
There's that look
In your eye
I can read in your face that your feelings are driving you wild
Ah, but girl you're only a child

Well, I could dance with you honey
If you think it's funny
Does your mother know that you're out?
And I could chat with you baby
Flirt a little maybe
Does your mother know that you're out?

Take it easy (take it easy)
Better slow down girl
That's no way to go
Does your mother know
Take it easy (take it easy)
Try to cool it girl
Take it nice and slow
Does your mother know

I can see
What you want
But you seem pretty young to be searching for that kind of fun
So maybe I'm not the one

 

(copied and pasted - but on an iPhone ?)

upvote for the copy & paste skillz

[Slugworth]

So what was the original post about? 

[Homer]

36 minutes ago, Slugworth said:

So what was the original post about? 

No idea - am on a Pc today as am working from home, so now I can’t read the original post either ?‍♂️

Edited June 11, 2019 by Homer

[guypjfreak]

20 hours ago, Homer said:

Thanks - that's the conclusion I've come to (in an extremely roundabout way - it's been a bit of a rollercoaster!).

It's a double-whammy of delight too - as I'm going to celebrate the innocent until proven guilty principle by dusting off all my old Jim Davidson live VHS tapes and watching them all back-to-back tonight.

Saw his live show after being told he was clear of all allegations.. Half the place was empty and he was like well there you go shit sticks.. I used to sell out this place.. 

Anyway he told us about what actually happened and how he was treated all the way making it funny and how he was getting on with life helping veturens etc and how much money he had lost because of the claims.. It was really sad..

But he also said that it's gone SOOO far now that anyone could be put in to that position.. 

Met him outside the gig and said hi etc he was really nice.. Then he jumped in HIS car and drove himself of to his hotel...due to the financial situation he was doing it all himself. 

Still a very funny man and I hope he does well 

 

[hfuhruhurr]

8 hours ago, Slugworth said:

So what was the original post about? 

What cheese to take.

[Homer]

4 minutes ago, hfuhruhurr said:

What cheese to take.

Apparently Vikki Michelle didn’t actually find Gordon Kaye that attractive (and vice versa).

[CaledonianGonzo]

Delighted to hear that Jim Davidson's career is in the khazi.

[clarkete]

16 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Delighted to hear that Jim Davidson's career is in the khazi.

Indeed, despite guy's affection, he is still a scumbag piece of shit and deserves it all and far more besides. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Davidson

[maelzoid]

1 hour ago, clarkete said:

Indeed, despite guy's affection, he is still a scumbag piece of shit and deserves it all and far more besides. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Davidson

From that Wikipedia page, I quote:

Dappy's legal team declined Davidson's offer to serve as a character witness for the singer.

 

[Homer]

9 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

From that Wikipedia page, I quote:

Dappy's legal team declined Davidson's offer to serve as a character witness for the singer.

 

I'm glad that's been cleared up.

[Mark E. Spliff]

2 hours ago, guypjfreak said:

Still a very funny man and I hope he does well 

The variety of viewpoints is what makes this site so special.  My view is that Jim Davidson is an arsehole and I hope he gets cancer.

[guypjfreak]

1 hour ago, Mark E. Spliff said:

The variety of viewpoints is what makes this site so special.  My view is that Jim Davidson is an arsehole and I hope he gets cancer.

Views are views old son but leave the cancer out of it Yea.. I have a friend with only month to go from that shit............... 

[maelzoid]

1 hour ago, Mark E. Spliff said:

My view is that Jim Davidson is an arsehole and I hope he gets cancer.

My view is that anyone who wishes cancer on someone else is an arsehole.

[rosieangel]

Here we go again!!! ??

 

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Bjorn Again and think it's decent that Bjorn has since reflected that it's problematic. Not in the same league as some of the other lyrics mentioned but then this is ABBA!

 

 

[Purple aki squat]

50 minutes ago, maelzoid said:

My view is that anyone who wishes cancer on someone else is an arsehole.

I think it was a bad joke.

As it was about Jim Davidson I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Big break was terrible viewing, something about him and Virgo made me concerned for the contestants welfare.

The theme tune was good though.

[maelzoid]

Yeah, I was just being a shit-stirrer.