Stage Predictions 2017

[Keithy]

52 minutes ago, sisco said:

Still convinced that Royal Blood won't sub

5 months out, there's no way Royal Blood will sub a main stage with a 3 year old album and, currently, no new album out or even a release date for one or a new single off it. XX have played it right - new album next week, 2 songs already out, sold out spring tour. That gives you momentum and a festival confidence to give you a high profile spot.

Late afternoon or teatime for Other/Pyramid or 3rd down in JP Tent at best. If it wasn't for no Glasto in 2018, I wouldn't even have them down to play this summer. 

[FloorFiller]

9 minutes ago, Keithy said:

Late afternoon or teatime for Other/Pyramid or 3rd down in JP Tent at best. If it wasn't for no Glasto in 2018, I wouldn't even have them down to play this summer. 

you almost had me convinced until this ludicrous statement

[Mezhyp1]

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

you almost had me convinced until this ludicrous statement

Agree

14 minutes ago, Keithy said:

5 months out, there's no way Royal Blood will sub a main stage with a 3 year old album and, currently, no new album out or even a release date for one or a new single off it. XX have played it right - new album next week, 2 songs already out, sold out spring tour. That gives you momentum and a festival confidence to give you a high profile spot.

Late afternoon or teatime for Other/Pyramid or 3rd down in JP Tent at best. If it wasn't for no Glasto in 2018, I wouldn't even have them down to play this summer. 

On this one Keithy,  you haven't got a fucking clue what you're on about 

[FloorFiller]

also re: The xx, do you think festivals have only booked them in high positions since they announced their album/released the single a month back?

much in the same way that Sheeran has released fuck all and is headlining, Royal Blood don't need new material out this early to be guaranteed a high festival position

[thewayiam]

1 hour ago, sisco said:

 Biffy will be 1! Still can't see any reason why they aren't an exclusive at Download if they aren't playing Glastonbury. (Not playing IOW or R&L)

I'd be more convinced if SOAD were exclusive like Aerosmith but they aren't. I do think it wouldoes help give them any push they may need, it wouldn't help Download sales mind being after it.

6 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

also re: The xx, do you think festivals have only booked them in high positions since they announced their album/released the single a month back?

much in the same way that Sheeran has released fuck all and is headlining, Royal Blood don't need new material out this early to be guaranteed a high festival position

But Sheeran will have new material out by the time that is confirmed so that doesn't matter there.

What Keith is saying is bull though. 

[sisco]

They'll be high but I can't see them subbing the pyramid.  3rd down yes, or even subbing the other for me

[Keithy]

24 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Royal Blood don't need new material out this early to be guaranteed a high festival position

So in 2017, a single 3 year old album (that was toured to death) is enough for a high festival position?

Given last time RB played Glastonbury it was 2pm on a Saturday afternoon, I'm not sure what's changed 3 years on when the hype has died down and they still have the same album?

XX would automatically be getting a high spot with new stuff given they've already headlined + 2 successful albums. Ditto for Ed - 2 huge albums and has been moving up the order when he plays.  

If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. Maybe 3rd on JP is a bit harsh and they could sub there but If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. I'm not sure what's to ludicrous or bull about that?!

[kingcrawler]

3 minutes ago, Keithy said:

So in 2017, a single 3 year old album (that was toured to death) is enough for a high festival position?

Given last time RB played Glastonbury it was 2pm on a Saturday afternoon, I'm not sure what's changed 3 years on when the hype has died down and they still have the same album?

XX would automatically be getting a high spot with new stuff given they've already headlined + 2 successful albums. Ditto for Ed - 2 huge albums and has been moving up the order when he plays.  

If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. Maybe 3rd on JP is a bit harsh and they could sub there but If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. I'm not sure what's to ludicrous or bull about that?!

They hadn't even released their album when they played before yet pulled a huge crowd. Sure, the hype has died down now but that happens to every band who haven't released anything or toured in the last year, as soon as they put out a new single the hype will naturally pick up again. I'm leaning more towards 3rd down rather than subbing now but anything else just seems ridiculous.

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, Keithy said:

So in 2017, a single 3 year old album (that was toured to death) is enough for a high festival position?

Given last time RB played Glastonbury it was 2pm on a Saturday afternoon, I'm not sure what's changed 3 years on when the hype has died down and they still have the same album?

XX would automatically be getting a high spot with new stuff given they've already headlined + 2 successful albums. Ditto for Ed - 2 huge albums and has been moving up the order when he plays.  

If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. Maybe 3rd on JP is a bit harsh and they could sub there but If RB don't sub then the next slot on Other/Pyramid is the late afternoon / teatime slot of 6pm. I'm not sure what's to ludicrous or bull about that?!

they were booked for and played that slot at Glastonbury before they'd even released their album and they absolutely packed it out. they went on to play third down at Reading/Leeds a year later based on the huge success of the album (Gazza will argue they only got that slot as they were an exclusive - i don't think it matters at all). if they've released a new album by the time festival season rolls 'round (which they of course will - they've got six months to do it) then they will undoubtedly be getting much bigger slots than you're saying. third down Pyramid at least, but i personally still think they'll sub

[Keithy]

3 minutes ago, kingcrawler said:

They hadn't even released their album when they played before yet pulled a huge crowd. Sure, the hype has died down now but that happens to every band who haven't released anything or toured in the last year, as soon as they put out a new single the hype will naturally pick up again. I'm leaning more towards 3rd down rather than subbing now but anything else just seems ridiculous.

 

2 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

they were booked for and played that slot at Glastonbury before they'd even released their album and they absolutely packed it out. they went on to play third down at Reading/Leeds a year later based on the huge success of the album (Gazza will argue they only got that slot as they were an exclusive - i don't think it matters at all). if they've released a new album by the time festival season rolls 'round (which they of course will - they've got six months to do it) then they will undoubtedly be getting much bigger slots than you're saying. third down Pyramid at least, but i personally still think they'll sub

To be fair, they did support Arctic Monkey's twice in the May, were massive coming out of SXSW in March and were getting a ton of airplay for the EP. I'd already seen them twice before Glastonbury so wasn't surprised the crowd was spilling out of the JP tent as the hype was insane. I'm sure we will have a new album out given the teaser video they released but I'd have liked to had a track out by now as a taster for what the 'difficult second' album will be like. I guess there's still time for a single in Feb, 2nd single early April and album in May, the hype to build back up again and a triumphant sub on the Pyramid.

Though as much as a like RB, part of me thinks we'll look back in 7/8 years and wonder how the hell RB subbed the pyramid! 

 

 

[Keithy]

I suppose it's all a moot point if IoW or Reading come out with RB as an exclusive and headliner.

If there was a Glasto in 2018 then that's what I think would happen; 2017 - Reading, 2018 - Glasto. However I guess RB won't want to get themselves tied down to an exclusive this year that means they don't play Glastonbury for 2 years.

[Untz]

3 hours ago, dentalplan said:

I think Bonobo is getting too big now to do much else. Could still squeeze into a John Peel headliner slot but the direction his music is going in could probably work quite well on big outdoor stages. 

Boot out Sandé and move up Metronomy and Bonobo. Jobs a good 'un. Also removes that clash with Barry Gibb I hadn't noticed before.

I don't care if they're not "big enough".

[FloorFiller]

can't picture Bonobo playing in the middle of the day on the Other Stage - that seems all wrong to me. not sure where i'd stick him mind... JP headliner maybe

[dentalplan]

3 minutes ago, Untz said:

Boot out Sandé and move up Metronomy and Bonobo. Jobs a good 'un. Also removes that clash with Barry Gibb I hadn't noticed before.

I don't care if they're not "big enough".

Nah they wouldn't clash. Pyramid acts get longer sets and bigger changeover times so you could boogie round to the Other Stage after Gibbo.

[sylvester-901]

Possibility perhaps... (First post, so don't judge )

Pyramid: Radiohead, The XX, Lorde, Tinie Tempah, Fleet Foxes, Seasick Steve, Goat, Okavango African Orchestra

Other Stage: Major Lazer, Clean Bandit, Phoenix, Hozier, Norah Jones, Garbage (Opening)

John Peel: Die Antwoord, Crystal Castles, Professor Green, Tove Lo, Foxes

West Holts: Justice, Blood Orange, Cate Le Bon, Mura Masa, Anohni 

Park: Regina Spektor, Tom Chaplin, Lady Antebellum, The Shries, Cruel Youth

 

Pyramid: Ed Sheeran, Lady Gaga, Iggy Pop, The Specials, Barry Gibb, Stormzy, NAO, Omar Souleyman

Other Stage: Royal Blood, Boy Better Know, Slaves, White Lies, FKA Twigs

John Peel: The Flaming Lips, Lower Than Atlantis, Birdy, Fat White Family, Bonobo, VANT

West Holts: Kraftwerk, Empire Of The Sun, Hiatus Kaiyote, The Cat Empire, Lewis Watson

Park: Warpaint, St. Vincent, The Radio Dep, Angel Olsen, The Lemon Twigs 

 

Pyramid: Foo Fighters, Nick Cave, A Tribe Called Quest, Diana Ross, Courteeners, Parov Stelar, Rag'N'Bone Man, Black Dyke Band

Other Stage: Bon Iver, Emeli Sande, First Aid Kit, Wild Beasts, Glass Animals, Klangstof

John Peel: The Avalanches, Sigala, Blossoms, King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard, Honeyblood

West Holts: Bobby Rush, Mahotella Queens, Teleman, All We Are

Park: The Jesus And Mary Chain, Sleaford Mods, Katie Meula, Julia Jacklin, Golden Rules

Edited January 4, 2017 by sylvester-901

[SwedgeAntilles]

Your Radiohead vs Justice and Avalanches vs Bon Iver clashes are killing me Sylvey, killing me. I can't help but judge.

[01seb]

Current prediction update...

FRIDAY

Pyramid: Radiohead, The XX, Barry Gibb, Lorde, Run the Jewels, Clean Bandit, Michael Kiwanuka, Junun

Other: The Weeknd, Royal Blood, London Grammar, George Ezra, The Lumineers, Mac DeMarco, Nothing But Thieves, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Travis 

West Holts: Grace Jones, Empire of the Sun, Metronomy, Little Dragon, Jagwar Ma, Goat, Romperavo

John Peel: Haim, James Bay, Slaves, Nick Murphy, The Temper Trap, Mura Masa, Fat White Family, Milky Chance, Honeyblood, Let's Eat Grandma, Talent Contest Winner

The Park: Warpaint, St Vincent, Teenage Fanclub, Kiasmos, Local Natives, King Krule, Pond, Julia Jacklin, Gordi

SATURDAY

Pyramid: Ed Sheeran, Paolo Nutini, Bastille, Iggy Pop, Solange, Christine & the Queens, Blossoms, Kate Tempest

Other: The Prodigy, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, Richard Ashcroft, Jimmy Eat World, Circa Waves, Peace, Drenge, Arcane Roots

West Holts: The Specials & Toot and the Maytals, St Germain, Blood Orange, Erasure, Hercules & Love Affair, Elza Soares, BCUC (Bantu Continua Uhuru Consciousness)

John Peel: The Flaming Lips, Bonobo, The Kills, Crystal Castles. Rag'n'Bone Man, Palma Violets, Shura, The Whytches, Teleman, The Big Moon

The Park: The Maccabees, First Aid Kit, Mew, Kurt Vile, Mitski, Whitney, Lucy Rode, Rhodes, Maybel

SUNDAY

Pyramid: Foo Fighters, Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Diana Ross, Kodaline, Vintage Trouble, Black Dyke Band

Other: Alt-J, Elbow, You Me at Six, Jungle, The Shins, Stormzy, Rat Boy, The Lemon Twigs, Foy Vance

West Holts: Kraftwerk, The Avalanches, Omar Souleyman, BadBadNotGood, The Cat Empire, King Sunny Ade, Soledad Velez

John Peel: Justice, Grizzly Bear, Glass Animals, Parquet Courts, Sleigh Bells, Car Seat Headrest, Spring King, Temples, The Parrots

The Park: Regina Spektor, Royksopp, Angel Olsen, Tycho, Kevin Morby, DIIV, Hudson Taylor

 

[dentalplan]

Some things I'd argue are a bit too low and there are a few unnecessary repeats of last year but it's looking good - would be happy enough.

On seeing the Goat shouts I just remembered that I read on the King Gizz sub that according to a few diff peeps Goat are meant to be splitting after this tour finishes. Hope they've had a change of heart.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Some things I'd argue are a bit too low and there are a few unnecessary repeats of last year but it's looking good - would be happy enough.

On seeing the Goat shouts I just remembered that I read on the King Gizz sub that according to a few diff peeps Goat are meant to be splitting after this tour finishes. Hope they've had a change of heart.

WOTTTTTTTT????????? THIS IS THE WORST DAY

[Stokesy10]

1 hour ago, 01seb said:

Current prediction update...

FRIDAY

Pyramid: Radiohead, The XX, Barry Gibb, Lorde, Run the Jewels, Clean Bandit, Michael Kiwanuka, Junun

Other: The Weeknd, Royal Blood, London Grammar, George Ezra, The Lumineers, Mac DeMarco, Nothing But Thieves, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Travis 

West Holts: Grace Jones, Empire of the Sun, Metronomy, Little Dragon, Jagwar Ma, Goat, Romperavo

John Peel: Haim, James Bay, Slaves, Nick Murphy, The Temper Trap, Mura Masa, Fat White Family, Milky Chance, Honeyblood, Let's Eat Grandma, Talent Contest Winner

The Park: Warpaint, St Vincent, Teenage Fanclub, Kiasmos, Local Natives, King Krule, Pond, Julia Jacklin, Gordi

SATURDAY

Pyramid: Ed Sheeran, Paolo Nutini, Bastille, Iggy Pop, Solange, Christine & the Queens, Blossoms, Kate Tempest

Other: The Prodigy, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, Richard Ashcroft, Jimmy Eat World, Circa Waves, Peace, Drenge, Arcane Roots

West Holts: The Specials & Toot and the Maytals, St Germain, Blood Orange, Erasure, Hercules & Love Affair, Elza Soares, BCUC (Bantu Continua Uhuru Consciousness)

John Peel: The Flaming Lips, Bonobo, The Kills, Crystal Castles. Rag'n'Bone Man, Palma Violets, Shura, The Whytches, Teleman, The Big Moon

The Park: The Maccabees, First Aid Kit, Mew, Kurt Vile, Mitski, Whitney, Lucy Rode, Rhodes, Maybel

SUNDAY

Pyramid: Foo Fighters, Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Diana Ross, Kodaline, Vintage Trouble, Black Dyke Band

Other: Alt-J, Elbow, You Me at Six, Jungle, The Shins, Stormzy, Rat Boy, The Lemon Twigs, Foy Vance

West Holts: Kraftwerk, The Avalanches, Omar Souleyman, BadBadNotGood, The Cat Empire, King Sunny Ade, Soledad Velez

John Peel: Justice, Grizzly Bear, Glass Animals, Parquet Courts, Sleigh Bells, Car Seat Headrest, Spring King, Temples, The Parrots

The Park: Regina Spektor, Royksopp, Angel Olsen, Tycho, Kevin Morby, DIIV, Hudson Taylor

 

Your Saturday night (Ed aside) is giving me palpitations :/ serious clashes.

[thewayiam]

7 hours ago, 01seb said:

Current prediction update...

FRIDAY

Pyramid: Radiohead, The XX, Barry Gibb, Lorde, Run the Jewels, Clean Bandit, Michael Kiwanuka, Junun

Other: The Weeknd, Royal Blood, London Grammar, George Ezra, The Lumineers, Mac DeMarco, Nothing But Thieves, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Travis 

West Holts: Grace Jones, Empire of the Sun, Metronomy, Little Dragon, Jagwar Ma, Goat, Romperavo

John Peel: Haim, James Bay, Slaves, Nick Murphy, The Temper Trap, Mura Masa, Fat White Family, Milky Chance, Honeyblood, Let's Eat Grandma, Talent Contest Winner

The Park: Warpaint, St Vincent, Teenage Fanclub, Kiasmos, Local Natives, King Krule, Pond, Julia Jacklin, Gordi

SATURDAY

Pyramid: Ed Sheeran, Paolo Nutini, Bastille, Iggy Pop, Solange, Christine & the Queens, Blossoms, Kate Tempest

Other: The Prodigy, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, Richard Ashcroft, Jimmy Eat World, Circa Waves, Peace, Drenge, Arcane Roots

West Holts: The Specials & Toot and the Maytals, St Germain, Blood Orange, Erasure, Hercules & Love Affair, Elza Soares, BCUC (Bantu Continua Uhuru Consciousness)

John Peel: The Flaming Lips, Bonobo, The Kills, Crystal Castles. Rag'n'Bone Man, Palma Violets, Shura, The Whytches, Teleman, The Big Moon

The Park: The Maccabees, First Aid Kit, Mew, Kurt Vile, Mitski, Whitney, Lucy Rode, Rhodes, Maybel

SUNDAY

Pyramid: Foo Fighters, Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Diana Ross, Kodaline, Vintage Trouble, Black Dyke Band

Other: Alt-J, Elbow, You Me at Six, Jungle, The Shins, Stormzy, Rat Boy, The Lemon Twigs, Foy Vance

West Holts: Kraftwerk, The Avalanches, Omar Souleyman, BadBadNotGood, The Cat Empire, King Sunny Ade, Soledad Velez

John Peel: Justice, Grizzly Bear, Glass Animals, Parquet Courts, Sleigh Bells, Car Seat Headrest, Spring King, Temples, The Parrots

The Park: Regina Spektor, Royksopp, Angel Olsen, Tycho, Kevin Morby, DIIV, Hudson Taylor

 

Switch The Prodigy to Friday as there is a high chance Wireless do have an exclusive deal over The Weeknd. That would do me.

[FuzzyDunlop]

8 hours ago, dentalplan said:

Some things I'd argue are a bit too low and there are a few unnecessary repeats of last year but it's looking good - would be happy enough.

On seeing the Goat shouts I just remembered that I read on the King Gizz sub that according to a few diff peeps Goat are meant to be splitting after this tour finishes. Hope they've had a change of heart.

I used to like you Dental.

This is bad news.

[The60ftOctopus]

10 hours ago, 01seb said:

Current prediction update...

FRIDAY

Pyramid: Radiohead, The XX, Barry Gibb, Lorde, Run the Jewels, Clean Bandit, Michael Kiwanuka, Junun

Other: The Weeknd, Royal Blood, London Grammar, George Ezra, The Lumineers, Mac DeMarco, Nothing But Thieves, King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, Travis 

West Holts: Grace Jones, Empire of the Sun, Metronomy, Little Dragon, Jagwar Ma, Goat, Romperavo

John Peel: Haim, James Bay, Slaves, Nick Murphy, The Temper Trap, Mura Masa, Fat White Family, Milky Chance, Honeyblood, Let's Eat Grandma, Talent Contest Winner

The Park: Warpaint, St Vincent, Teenage Fanclub, Kiasmos, Local Natives, King Krule, Pond, Julia Jacklin, Gordi

SATURDAY

Pyramid: Ed Sheeran, Paolo Nutini, Bastille, Iggy Pop, Solange, Christine & the Queens, Blossoms, Kate Tempest

Other: The Prodigy, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, Richard Ashcroft, Jimmy Eat World, Circa Waves, Peace, Drenge, Arcane Roots

West Holts: The Specials & Toot and the Maytals, St Germain, Blood Orange, Erasure, Hercules & Love Affair, Elza Soares, BCUC (Bantu Continua Uhuru Consciousness)

John Peel: The Flaming Lips, Bonobo, The Kills, Crystal Castles. Rag'n'Bone Man, Palma Violets, Shura, The Whytches, Teleman, The Big Moon

The Park: The Maccabees, First Aid Kit, Mew, Kurt Vile, Mitski, Whitney, Lucy Rode, Rhodes, Maybel

SUNDAY

Pyramid: Foo Fighters, Lady Gaga, Imagine Dragons, Diana Ross, Kodaline, Vintage Trouble, Black Dyke Band

Other: Alt-J, Elbow, You Me at Six, Jungle, The Shins, Stormzy, Rat Boy, The Lemon Twigs, Foy Vance

West Holts: Kraftwerk, The Avalanches, Omar Souleyman, BadBadNotGood, The Cat Empire, King Sunny Ade, Soledad Velez

John Peel: Justice, Grizzly Bear, Glass Animals, Parquet Courts, Sleigh Bells, Car Seat Headrest, Spring King, Temples, The Parrots

The Park: Regina Spektor, Royksopp, Angel Olsen, Tycho, Kevin Morby, DIIV, Hudson Taylor

 

 

I'd be very happy with this. Definitely want Hercule & Love Affair and Iggy Pop on the lineup now. I won't settle for anything else.

Also doubt Kurt Vile will be back on The Park stage, but stranger things have happened I guess.

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, FuzzyDunlop said:

I used to like you Dental.

This is bad news.

Issa rumour. Not news yet.

3 hours ago, thewayiam said:

there is a high chance Wireless do have an exclusive deal over The Weeknd

No there isn't. It's been mooted as a possibility but given they seldom do exclusives and the other headliner at the German event is Bieber - who's not even playing the UK one - it's not definite.

[JoeyT]

Surely Elbow will pop up somewhere? New album out soon n all that.

I'd put a large chunk of money on the Sunday Evening sunset slot on the Pyramid Stage...

Edit: just noticed you've put them in on the same slot but on the other stage, surely there is a better chance of them being on the pyramid?

Edited January 5, 2017 by JoeyT