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[fraybentos1]

15 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Hopefully we see the same level of anger as energy bills are a much more important issue than the Royals!

Think you might be a monarchist who is too scared to admit it tbh

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

To you maybe. It's all important to some of us.

 

Which is totally fair but the perception is that it isn't all important. Loads of people are gonna be worrying about how to pay their bills this winter, heat their homes, pay for food etc. I dare say that should be the most pressing issue facing the country right now.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Ozanne

[fraybentos1]

Clear as day now, that @Ozanne is a royalist. He was posting tributes to the Queen from twitter in here the other day 😂

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[Guest]

3 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Not sure if you’re aware but Starmer’s proposal is also to heavily subsidise the energy companies so..

 

Also fuck the presently decomposing Queen, the new living King and all the rest. They don’t do anything. Having very expensive holidays, dinners and cutting ribbons is not a job. It doesn’t take much effort. If that were someone you knew who did that as a job, without the titles, for tens of mil a year, plus windfalls from sales from the crown estate like the attached**, then you’d be absolutely fucking perplexed. If I were king, even if it were not possible to fold the institution (Idk), i’d abdicate immediately after recognising the absurd, to borrow @Zoo Music Girl’s word, grotesque, injust position i held.

They are at best brainwashed, stupid, inbred zombies. At worst willfully malevolent in their self preservationism. But even if they are just thick, the Queen had 96 years to figure it out and nothing else to think about, so she really should have.

Pretty much the only thing I look towards the french to as an example, is their solution to the enduring problem of the monarchy.

 

**turns out the Queen in typically ridiculous fashion, owned the seabed, so received a 25% cut from its sale to a windfarm

Yes I agree, the Royals don't really do anything at all and proved they were useless when Johnson lied to the Queen to illegally prorogue Parliament and did nothing.

 

However you seem to be much more angry about the Royals than about people being unable to pay their bills, heat their homes and the energy firms getting a bung from the government. That seems to be a more pressing issue than a rich family.

[pink_triangle]

5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Not sure if you’re aware but Starmer’s proposal is also to heavily subsidise the energy companies so..

 

Also fuck the presently decomposing Queen, the new living King and all the rest. They don’t do anything. Having very expensive holidays, dinners and cutting ribbons is not a job. It doesn’t take much effort. If that were someone you knew who did that as a job, without the titles, for tens of mil a year, plus windfalls from sales from the crown estate like the attached**, then you’d be absolutely fucking perplexed. If I were king, even if it were not possible to fold the institution (Idk), i’d abdicate immediately after recognising the absurd, to borrow @Zoo Music Girl’s word, grotesque, injust position i held.

They are at best brainwashed, stupid, inbred zombies. At worst willfully malevolent in their self preservationism. But even if they are just thick, the Queen had 96 years to figure it out and nothing else to think about, so she really should have.

Pretty much the only thing I look towards the french to as an example, is their solution to the enduring problem of the monarchy.

 

**turns out the Queen in typically ridiculous fashion, owned the seabed, so received a 25% cut from its sale to a windfarm

For all the talk about an easy job it's not one I would want to do. I like my privacy and the ability to go where I want when I want. Having to watch one of those jubilee concerts would push me over the edge.

[lost]

Its like another of our institutions the BBC. Some people think the idea of being forced to pay £159 a year for state owned tv channels ridiculous in 2022 whilst others will defend it as an essential part of our culture.

[steviewevie]

God Save The King

[philipsteak]

Tell you what though, there's some spectacular 'poetry' out there on social media. 

Think the royals might be worth it for that alone. The Vogons have got nothing on this lot. 

[mattiloy]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Its like another of our institutions the BBC. Some people think the idea of being forced to pay £159 a year for state owned tv channels ridiculous in 2022 whilst others will defend it as an essential part of our culture.

The license fee is opt in.

[squirrelarmy]

7 hours ago, Ozanne said:

it’s a complete joke how the new PM is choosing to support those firms. 

I can’t think why Shell shareholder Liz Truss is supporting the energy companies. 🤔

[Crazyfool01]

arrests for protesting about the monarchy ffs 😞 

[mattiloy]

5 hours ago, Ozanne said:

Yes I agree, the Royals don't really do anything at all and proved they were useless when Johnson lied to the Queen to illegally prorogue Parliament and did nothing.

 

However you seem to be much more angry about the Royals than about people being unable to pay their bills, heat their homes and the energy firms getting a bung from the government. That seems to be a more pressing issue than a rich family.

Its not that confusing. But I can simplify it for you if you like?

People often express their opinions on one issue without expressing their opinion on another unrelated issue and ranking them in importance. It happens quite often. In fact it happens almost all the time. In fact most people would probably find it confusing if people had to express and rank all of their opinions at the same time everytime they wanted to express one opinion.

[steviewevie]

God Save The King

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Its not that confusing. But I can simplify it for you if you like?

People often express their opinions on one issue without expressing their opinion on another unrelated issue and ranking them in importance. It happens quite often. In fact it happens almost all the time. In fact most people would probably find it confusing if people had to express and rank all of their opinions at the same time everytime they wanted to express one opinion.

I never asked for people to rank their opinions, I'm not sure why you've mentioned it. All I said was that some people seemed more angry at the Royals than the cost of living package, I never asked or mentioned what you said.

[gizmoman]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

God Save The King

'king idiot.

[mattiloy]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I never asked for people to rank their opinions, I'm not sure why you've mentioned it. All I said was that some people seemed more angry at the Royals than the cost of living package, I never asked or mentioned what you said.

How do you know what people are angry about? Not everybody feels the need to fart out every waking thought they have on these forums

[Guest]

1 minute ago, mattiloy said:

How do you know what people are angry about? Not everybody feels the need to fart out every waking thought they have on these forums

I said it seems like people are more angry about the Royals, because that's how it seems to me after a few days activity in this thread. The cost of living crises is a much more important issue than the Queen passing (even though that is sad) and I'd have thought people would be more angry about the energy bills package as I mentioned. I'm not sure why it's made you so angry at me.

[gizmoman]

23 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

arrests for protesting about the monarchy ffs 😞 

Democracy and freedom, just as long as you do what you are told.

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For reasons such as this I really hope that focus goes back to the cost of living crises soon.

[Crazyfool01]

11 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

Democracy and freedom, just as long as you do what you are told.

Going full North Korea 🇰🇵…. And yes I’m also concerned about energy crisis !! 

[fraybentos1]

You know ozanne has been having a mare on here when even Stevie can’t be fucked entertaining him. 

[fraybentos1]

20 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I said it seems like people are more angry about the Royals, because that's how it seems to me after a few days activity in this thread. 

‘Activity in this thread’ you mean you treating it like your personal diary and getting pissy when people say stuff you don’t like lol

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[gizmoman]

38 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

 

It's an interesting statistic, but you have to bear in mind that Britain in 1952 was still recovering from the second world war and money was tight, some foods were still being rationed so there wasn't the money for most people to afford a house, hence less demand and lower prices, also a house in those days was pretty bare, no central heating, double glazing or appliances included so you were getting less for your money, this is the problem with statistics, you have to go a bit deeper to get a true picture. (not saying housing isn't overpriced, it is, but probably not by this margin).