When will this shit end?

[efcfanwirral]

 

Well this is a surprise...

[Guest]

There was always going be teething problems, it happens with nearly every new system. 

[fraybentos1]

Another record day for vaccines in Scotland with 63,178. first doses. Amazing numbers especially given the snow fall.

[steviewevie]

I am going to treat the family by fucking off.

[zahidf]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

There was always going be teething problems, it happens with nearly every new system. 

You're not having a go at the government? 😲

[Paul ™]

Government website updated with the Hotel Quarantine and Travel Testing Package.

And no surprise, the links to the actual booking pages are under maintenance 🤣

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/booking-and-staying-in-a-quarantine-hotel-when-you-arrive-in-england

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-quarantine-when-you-arrive-in-england

 

[JoeyT]

 

[Paul ™]

Basically looks like can only use 5 airports, so anyone driving overland from Portugual who is honest and says they have been there isn't going to do it anyway 

[Mellotr0n]

1 minute ago, JoeyT said:

 

[zahidf]

 

[JoeyT]

 

[northernringo]

On 2/8/2021 at 2:16 PM, northernringo said:

296 cases today which is the lowest daily number since November 30th.

7 day rate is now down to 155.2, with 5 of the 11 regions of NI having a 7 day rate below 100 (including mine).

The 7 day rate for NI is at its lowest since Dec 5th.

7 day rate in NI is now down to 126.3, the lowest figure since Oct 1st which is fantastic.

My particular area is down below 100 too (74.6).

[Guest]

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said:

 

If we let everyone else catch it in anything close to the same time then we'll end up with already stretched hospitals tipping over into overwhelmed again as the lower percentage of younger people in hospital becomes a big absolute number, not to mention further delayed treatments/surgeries etc.

The only sensible option for the NHS is to open up when most of the population is vaccinated, and keep things at tier 2 levels at best until then, with maybe household mixing added outdoors in summer. But that will ruin the economy so who knows...

First of all “everyone catching it at the same time” is a total misnomer. Even if the R number was allowed to go as high as 4 (which it wouldn’t due to vaccines, immunity and low level restrictions) it would take months to sweep through the remaining population.

 

Secondly, can you provide any evidence that the NHS could be overwhelmed purely as a result of covid admissions among people who don’t fall into the JCVI groups? I haven’t seen any admission data on people who are (a) under 50, and (b) No health conditions, but knowing what we know, you need an awful lot of cases in this group for one person to need hospitalised. Also worth remembering that these groups will have the highest levels of natural immunity as they’ve been the least careful throughout the pandemic.

 

I’m not saying that a reopening ISNT a risk to the NHS, but we need to see some data on the hospitalisation rate of younger people to explain why it would be. Furthermore, if prevalence can be driven very low over the next month, we’ll be in a position to try opening up for a bit and see what happens because the NHS will have a bit more breathing room. We can always lock down again if the hospitalisations creep north. 

[zahidf]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

First of all “everyone catching it at the same time” is a total misnomer. Even if the R number was allowed to go as high as 4 (which it wouldn’t due to vaccines, immunity and low level restrictions) it would take months to sweep through the remaining population.

 

Secondly, can you provide any evidence that the NHS could be overwhelmed purely as a result of covid admissions among people who don’t fall into the JCVI groups? I haven’t seen any admission data on people who are (a) under 50, and (b) No health conditions, but knowing what we know, you need an awful lot of cases in this group for one person to need hospitalised. Also worth remembering that these groups will have the highest levels of natural immunity as they’ve been the least careful throughout the pandemic.

 

I’m not saying that a reopening ISNT a risk to the NHS, but we need to see some data on the hospitalisation rate of younger people to explain why it would be. Furthermore, if prevalence can be driven very low over the next month, we’ll be in a position to try opening up for a bit and see what happens because the NHS will have a bit more breathing room. We can always lock down again if the hospitalisations creep north. 

Yup. I understand the pointdexters wanting to keep things safe, but not all of us can stay in the labs all the the time.

Thats a joke btw! im not advocating opening everything up in March, but i think some of the scientists need to stop adding years to things in public

[Guest]

Date for the roadmap could potentially be slipping. 

[fraybentos1]

10 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

 

Not everyone drinks at the pub. I assume it's cause he is a Hindu. You really do pick up on some strange things to comment on.

[xxialac]

53 minutes ago, Paul ™ said:

Government website updated with the Hotel Quarantine and Travel Testing Package.

And no surprise, the links to the actual booking pages are under maintenance 🤣

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/booking-and-staying-in-a-quarantine-hotel-when-you-arrive-in-england

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-quarantine-when-you-arrive-in-england

 

Wholly predictable shambles.

[Fuzzy Afro]

5 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Not everyone drinks at the pub. I assume it's cause he is a Hindu. You really do pick up on some strange things to comment on.

Since when did Hindus not drink? 

[zahidf]

11 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Date for the roadmap could potentially be slipping. 

I always took it mean that week.

Last day would be 25th Feb for schools to reopen March 8th. 

 

DOH, forgot Febhas 28 days! I dont think the schools and roadmap are linked closely to that extent. Can announce school to reopen on the 22nd and then the roadmap that week

 

Have the nerds got to the government and told them to keep us locked up for a few months 'to be sure?'

Edited February 11, 2021 by zahidf

[fraybentos1]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Since when did Hindus not drink? 

Just assumed that would be the reason. Could be wrong. Either way, my point is that you don't need to drink to go to the pub and it's a weird thing to pick up on imo.

[MEGABOWL]

3 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I always took it mean that week.

Last day would be 25th Feb for schools to reopen March 8th. 

 

Have the nerds got to the government and told them to keep us locked up for a few months 'to be sure?'

Feb 22nd is two weeks before March 8th (28 days in February)

[gooner1990]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Just assumed that would be the reason. Could be wrong. Either way, my point is that you don't need to drink to go to the pub and it's a weird thing to pick up on imo.

My girlfriend doesn't drink and goes to the pub a lot to have meals with me! 🙂 

[steviewevie]

115k dead.

 

[fraybentos1]

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Edited February 11, 2021 by fraybentos1