When will this shit end?

[Fuzzy Afro]

8 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I didn't realise a "childcare support bubble" was a thing.  Isn't it just one single person from another household?

Childcare bubbles are different from support bubbles 

[BobWillis]

58 minutes ago, st dan said:

Pleased that Johnson has come out and told people that it is vital to minimise all contact from today onwards if you’re forming a Christmas bubble. 
With pubs/restaurants shut for a large part of the county, online shopping, schools now closed, people WFH etc there is no real need for lots of people to leave the house until 23rd essentially. 

In a survey of one, my mum has just told me that she won’t be leaving the house and asked us not too either ‘just to be sure’. 

This should have been the message from day 1. Bubbles should isolate for a minimum of a week before meeting and those that can’t do that should avoid mixing at all over the 5 days. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said:

Can't agree with this January lockdown is ok idea - the biggest problem with lockdowns is the job losses and general poverty it will lead to. We shouldn't be doing anything to encourage needing more or prolonging it. Yes obviously we need one now, but christmas basically guarantees it lasting ar least 1-2 months longer and may actually overwhelm the NHS anyway so we'll have failed. The country has lost its collective minds over Christmas and everyone will suffer the consequences 

I agree. In some places the NHS is already running out of beds so I worry what this Christmas relaxation will do in a month or so. 

[waltere]

2 hours ago, st dan said:

Would love to just shove this in front of all the anti-vaxers and watch them squirm. I mean, what possible comeback to this would they have? (Although I assume they would find one!) 

Would love to know what caused there to be such a massive spike in smallpox deaths in that one specific year

[Crazyfool01]

BJ can’t rule out lockdown 3 ... bbc news at 1 

[st dan]

15 minutes ago, waltere said:

Would love to know what caused there to be such a massive spike in smallpox deaths in that one specific year

Looking at the dates on the graph, assuming this is explained in the below:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107752/smallpox-death-rate-great-pandemic-historical/ 

[xxialac]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

BJ can’t rule out lockdown 3 ... bbc news at 1 

BJ can't rule out having an approximately 10th child with mistress 17...bbc news at 1

[SheffJeff]

BJ can save christmas says BJ!

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, xxialac said:

BJ can't rule out having an approximately 10th child with mistress 17...bbc news at 1

BJ can’t rule out not being PM by this time next year 😉

[xxialac]

10 minutes ago, SheffJeff said:

BJ can save christmas says BJ!

Not sure those are covid-secure.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Lizzim said:

We are having my Mum through  to ours for christmas -  on balance her mental health took priority.  Her GP has just offered to increase her anxiety pills after a recent video consultation.  He is concerned with her loneliness..

Will only be 3 of us and we all have had the bare minimum outside contact for months.

can't you do that already? People living on own can form a bubble with another household or something?

Edited December 18, 2020 by steviewevie

[steviewevie]

R estimated to be between 1.1 and 1.2

[Crazyfool01]

Good news for the us ...

 

[xxialac]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

Good news for the us ...

 

The wife of that Trump enabler is called Karen?

Unfortunate...

[zahidf]

New antigen rapid test with very accurate results 

 

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, xxialac said:

The wife of that Trump enabler is called Karen?

Unfortunate...

Indeed ... but it might mean some of the trump voters might take the vaccine ... especially if he does ... much as I’d like him to be irrelevant he can leave with a legacy should he choose too ... but will he chose not to to spite Biden 

[efcfanwirral]

13 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Good news for the us ...

 

My first thought was "haha of course he did" - and anyone they're trying to convince will think the same thing. We have no idea what they were actually injected with but I'd be amazed if it was the actual vaccine. Imagine if he'd had a reaction to it, even just feeling a bit faint which happens to some people

Edited December 18, 2020 by efcfanwirral

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, efcfanwirral said:

My first thought was "haha of course he did" - and anyone they're trying to convince will think the same thing. We have no idea what they were actually injected with

Doesn’t matter what he was injected with if it was anything at all. If it means more Republicans are convinced to take the vaccine then it’s better. Probably won’t do much good though as most of them don’t believe in science. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, efcfanwirral said:

My first thought was "haha of course he did" - and anyone they're trying to convince will think the same thing. We have no idea what they were actually injected with

And yes that’s what the anti Vaxers will say too ... but there is a choice of several things ... take it publicly ... take it publicly and not take it ... take it with no publicity ... or don’t take it ... this would be the best option of those to persuade some I would say ... 

[efcfanwirral]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

And yes that’s what the anti Vaxers will say too ... but there is a choice of several things ... take it publicly ... take it publicly and not take it ... take it with no publicity ... or don’t take it ... this would be the best option of those to persuade some I would say ... 

It will probably work but behind the scenes they'd be mad to actually do it on camera - if he'd ACTUALLY had a reaction however mild it would have the opposite effect of what they're hoping. Nobody knows for 100% sure how each person will respond to any vaccine

[Punksnotdead]

10 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Indeed ... but it might mean some of the trump voters might take the vaccine ... especially if he does ... much as I’d like him to be irrelevant he can leave with a legacy should he choose too ... but will he chose not to to spite Biden 

But...... he's already immune! And he wants to kiss everyone! 🙂

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

It will probably work but behind the scenes they'd be mad to actually do it on camera - if he'd ACTUALLY had a reaction however mild it would have the opposite effect of what they're hoping. Nobody knows for 100% sure how each person will respond to any vaccine

Chances are so exceptionally low of that happening ... have we had any cases of that anywhere ? A couple of nurses had allergic reactions but carried epipens anyway ... that’s why they changed the advice on that bit ... no other data of such instances from the trials .... 

[efcfanwirral]

23 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Chances are so exceptionally low of that happening ... have we had any cases of that anywhere ? A couple of nurses had allergic reactions but carried epipens anyway ... that’s why they changed the advice on that bit ... no other data of such instances from the trials .... 

I dont mean the sort of reactions that would have trials stopped, just the every day personal reactions of feeling a bit faint or something like that. Add pressure of doing it on TV and their high stress lives there are no guarantees.  That's all it'd take for people to reject it - small risk but still a risk 

[waltere]

2 hours ago, st dan said:

Looking at the dates on the graph, assuming this is explained in the below:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107752/smallpox-death-rate-great-pandemic-historical/ 

Interesting. Didn't realise there would be such a definitive answer.

[steviewevie]