2019 Headliners

[CaledonianGonzo]

Let it go Lynn, you're never going to see Foals headline.

[Mash011]

@dentaIpIan you back the fuck off of Blur yeah

[dentalplan]

9 minutes ago, Mash011 said:

@dentaIpIan you back the fuck off of Blur yeah

Yo I like Blur, particularly the stuff towards the end of their first run.

I am fascinated, however, that a band of such arseholes whose biggest hits are the zeitgeist of a now much-maligned era of British music have ended up not covered in shit. They seem prime targets for it but are sacred cows, somehow.

[sisco]

2 hours ago, dentalplan said:

The Streets offered Pyramid sub/Other headline according to someone on here who's provided good info in past.

Who said that out of interest?

Surely has to be Other headliner if that’s the case

[dentalplan]

2 minutes ago, sisco said:

Who said that out of interest?

Surely has to be Other headliner if that’s the case

@endswithMJ I think?

I’m shit at remembering usernames when there’s no picture to associate with them.

[Mash011]

17 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Yo I like Blur, particularly the stuff towards the end of their first run.

I am fascinated, however, that a band of such arseholes whose biggest hits are the zeitgeist of a now much-maligned era of British music have ended up not covered in shit. They seem prime targets for it but are sacred cows, somehow.

It's cos they were the good bit of that zeitgeist. Even in their most obviously 'britpop' era, while some of it was admittedly a bit goofy they were putting out tracks like End of a fuckin Century which is just so good.

[dentalplan]

26 minutes ago, Mash011 said:

It's cos they were the good bit of that zeitgeist. Even in their most obviously 'britpop' era, while some of it was admittedly a bit goofy they were putting out tracks like End of a fuckin Century which is just so good.

But that’s always the argument, and it’s what I don’t really understand.

Getting the greatest hits CD with the pop art cover as a kid was a big moment in my musical journey but all of that stuff sounds dated now, even more so than Oasis - who had a better songwriter pulling the strings - and Pulp - who also wrote better songs and timeless lyrics. The likes of Country House (obviously now suffocatingly ironic) is pretty much exactly what Britpop is derided for... but their peers get the stick for it!

[stuartbert two hats]

13 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

But that’s always the argument, and it’s what I don’t really understand.

Getting the greatest hits CD with the pop art cover as a kid was a big moment in my musical journey but all of that stuff sounds dated now, even more so than Oasis - who had a better songwriter pulling the strings - and Pulp - who also wrote better songs and timeless lyrics. The likes of Country House (obviously now suffocatingly ironic) is pretty much exactly what Britpop is derided for... but their peers get the stick for it!

Beetlebum hasn't dated a single day to me.

[stuartbert two hats]

FWIW, I wasn't interested in Blur in 2009, I tried listening to their old stuff in the build up, but couldn't get into it.  I expect if I'd turned up I would have been caught up in the atmosphere, but was too ill from over indulgence on Friday to leave my tent.

[Winslow Leach]

I liked and even saw Blur as a teenager but now I find them utterly charmless.

[priest17]

1 minute ago, stuartbert two hats said:

FWIW, I wasn't interested in Blur in 2009, I tried listening to their old stuff in the build up, but couldn't get into it.  I expect if I'd turned up I would have been caught up in the atmosphere, but was too ill from over indulgence on Friday to leave my tent.

Should have come Black Eyed Peas, they were a hoot.

[priest17]

I think what we're all trying to say is if we have a Britpop band headline in 2020 it should definitely be Longpigs.

[stuartbert two hats]

5 minutes ago, priest17 said:

Should have come Black Eyed Peas, they were a hoot.

I could actually hear Blur, Black Eyed Peas and Prodigy from my tent in Pennards.  Black Eyed Peas were the best.

[CaledonianGonzo]

12 minutes ago, Winslow Leach said:

I liked and even saw Blur as a teenager but now I find them utterly charmless.

That's the story of some charmless men.

[Winslow Leach]

12 minutes ago, battleborn said:

I don't think it's fair to say Britpop is maligned, it just acts very much like a lot of late 70s punk in that it's more culturally significant than the actual music being outstanding in itself. I can't see Blur headlining 2020 though.

It’s cultural significance is almost entirely bad tho.

[Mattymooz]

Would be a bit weird but do you reckon The Carters (Beyonce + Jay Z) could do it? Would round out the trio a bit more in terms of genres, maybe something like this:

Pyramid:

Friday: The Carters / 1975 / Cardi B

Saturday: Fleetwood Mac / Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds / Catfish & The Bottlemen

Sunday: Arctic Monkeys / Sam Smith / The War On Drugs / Kylie Minogue

[stuartbert two hats]

2 minutes ago, battleborn said:

Fucking hell they released an album together? Where did that come from?

Was out this week, so you can be forgiven for not knowing about it.

[CaledonianGonzo]

9 minutes ago, Mattymooz said:

Would be a bit weird but do you reckon The Carters (Beyonce + Jay Z) could do it? 

They could do it, but they'd have to want to do it and that doesn't feel particularly likely.

[Mash011]

41 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

But that’s always the argument, and it’s what I don’t really understand.

Getting the greatest hits CD with the pop art cover as a kid was a big moment in my musical journey but all of that stuff sounds dated now, even more so than Oasis - who had a better songwriter pulling the strings - and Pulp - who also wrote better songs and timeless lyrics. The likes of Country House (obviously now suffocatingly ironic) is pretty much exactly what Britpop is derided for... but their peers get the stick for it!

Aye there's some blunders in there, I'm not going to defend Country House and in fact the whole of The Great Escape is a bit of a mess, but the peaks of their britpop stuff are way above the rest. And obviously over time it became fully realised when they got around to making 13 which is incredible. Total rubbish calling Noel a better songwriter too, not having that. 

[Hugh Jass]

Beetlebum, Tender, End of a Century, This is a Low, The Universal, No Distance Left To Run, 

All great tunes, none of them I’d class as “Britpop”.

[Hugh Jass]

And those are just the singles, when you start getting into the deep cuts like Strange News From Another Star and Trimm Trabb it gets even better.

[Hugh Jass]

Even The Magic Whip was good!

[dentalplan]

Britpop was mostly over by the time most of those came out though right? And End of a Century is Britpop. Either way, regardless of their later tunes; the band are eternally bonded to Britpop so there’s no point trying to pull them away from it.

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

Even The Magic Whip was good!

My capacity to accept alternative ideas only goes so far.

[Mash011]

8 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Britpop was mostly over by the time most of those came out though right? And End of a Century is Britpop. Either way, regardless of their later tunes; the band are eternally bonded to Britpop so there’s no point trying to pull them away from it.

Sure you can't separate them from it but they're also defined by an ability to move beyond it that their contemporaries often lacked.