2019 Headliners

[mufcok]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

It does seem there's something odd going on with the AMs at the moment - Album out last year, you'd think they'd be touring the shit out of it this summer. I still think the backlash to TBHC has stung them and they've gone back to make another AM to keep "real guitar music" crowd happy.

I've got a feeling they're keen to get back in the studio this time round, although Matt Helders does have aside project now which started quite recently so I'm not sure how that plays into it

[Gucci Piggy]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

It does seem there's something odd going on with the AMs at the moment - Album out last year, you'd think they'd be touring the shit out of it this summer. I still think the backlash to TBHC has stung them and they've gone back to make another AM to keep "real guitar music" crowd happy.

I doubt the backlash stunned them tbh, and I think they'll have wanted to make that album regardless.

I think maybe they just know it doesn't work that well at big shows and therefore don't want to tour it too much, especially at festivals.

[Hugh Jass]

2 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

I doubt the backlash stunned them tbh, and I think they'll have wanted to make that album regardless.

I think maybe they just know it doesn't work that well at big shows and therefore don't want to tour it too much, especially at festivals.

Maybe, although I can see all trace of TBHC being quietly dropped from their sets in years to come, with a possible exception for Four Out Of Five, which would be a shame.

[didinowanttohearthat]

The guy from the AMUS forums said that AM pulling out of Bonaroo isn't true and they never had it planned. He also said Glasto 2020 is more likely based on their rough plans.

[Gucci Piggy]

Just now, Hugh Jass said:

Maybe, although I can see all trace of TBHC being quietly dropped from their sets in years to come, with a possible exception for Four Out Of Five, which would be a shame.

Yeah I can definitely see that happening.

[OddRon]

Really enjoy Arctic Monkeys, Mad Cool performance was a bit of a let down for first time seeing them though, would happily see them again but don't think I'd pay for one of their own shows, fanbase is rather tiring but all fanbases are

[SwedgeAntilles]

Tell you what, the Stormzy booking is looking more and more shrewd. When you look at what the alternatives might've been this year you can completely understand why they decided to give him the push rather than stick the likes of Biffy on there. 

Edited January 23, 2019 by SwedgeAntilles

[paddyclark]

On 1/21/2019 at 4:44 PM, CaledonianGonzo said:

Everyone who wanted to see The Killers last time got to see them. Can't say the same about Stormzy.

No they didn't....   Stopped at the closed gate .....  was still epic from outside.  And yes they should headline.

[JoeyT]

Just now, SwedgeAntilles said:

Tell you what, the Stormzy booking is looking more and more shrewd. When you look at what the alternatives might've been this year you can completely understand why the decided to give him the push rather than stick the likes of Biffy on there. 

This is very true.

George Ezra was popping up on lots of folks predictions over on the stage prediction thread. I wonder if that makes him any less likely given he'll probably be either sub headlining or 3rd down on the pyramid?

[Superscally]

8 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

This is very true.

George Ezra was popping up on lots of folks predictions over on the stage prediction thread. I wonder if that makes him any less likely given he'll probably be either sub headlining or 3rd down on the pyramid?

I hope it does. He's fucking shite.

[Neontiger90]

34 minutes ago, Honeybane said:

they aren't touring though, this is what i don't understand

Nothing too extensive but The Killers will be active this year and playing a few festivals/shows. 

They've also had an agreement for a while now to headline Glastonbury again, it's just a question of when and whether that's become an actual set in stone booking.

I don't have any more solid information than that currently, just my own guesswork or hunches

[mufcok]

Just now, Neontiger90 said:

Nothing too extensive but The Killers will be active this year and playing a few festivals/shows. 

They've also had an agreement for a while now to headline Glastonbury again, it's just a question of when and whether that's become an actual set in stone booking.

I don't have any more solid information than that currently, just my own guesswork or hunches

Go on...

[strummer77]

29 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

It does seem there's something odd going on with the AMs at the moment - Album out last year, you'd think they'd be touring the shit out of it this summer. I still think the backlash to TBHC has stung them and they've gone back to make another AM to keep "real guitar music" crowd happy.

Don't think this stacks up really. I don't but they would be 'stung' by it and will take an unscheduled about turn. They aren't complete idiots so knew the album was going to divide more than AM and it realistically isn't a permanent direction they will take. The critical reception has been pretty good and the gigs they did sold really well.

As for not touring, they did a fair amount of festivals last year and quite a lot of sizable gigs off the back of it in the UK, Europe and elsewhere. Just checked and it appears they are still going in Australia and South America.

[The Martini Police]

45 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

It does seem there's something odd going on with the AMs at the moment - Album out last year, you'd think they'd be touring the shit out of it this summer. I still think the backlash to TBHC has stung them and they've gone back to make another AM to keep "real guitar music" crowd happy.

I think you're way off on this one. Making music of any certain nature to please people is exactly the opposite of what Arctic Monkeys are and there's plenty of evidence to prove it. Take '09-'11 for example. Humbug had a similarly divisive response but did they go and make another like their debut or 2nd? No, they changed paths completely again to create the poppier SIAS. Expect another change of course that's perfectly in line with Turner's attitude - always looking forward, serial songwriter, always trying new things. Fitting lyrics from way back:

Don't care if it's marketing suicide
We won't crack or compromise
Your derisory divides
Will never unhinge us

[The Martini Police]

19 minutes ago, strummer77 said:

Don't think this stacks up really. I don't but they would be 'stung' by it and will take an unscheduled about turn. They aren't complete idiots so knew the album was going to divide more than AM and it realistically isn't a permanent direction they will take. The critical reception has been pretty good and the gigs they did sold really well.

As for not touring, they did a fair amount of festivals last year and quite a lot of sizable gigs off the back of it in the UK, Europe and elsewhere. Just checked and it appears they are still going in Australia and South America.

Hadn't seen this. Yes, absolutely also this.

[Havors]

19 minutes ago, strummer77 said:

Don't think this stacks up really. I don't but they would be 'stung' by it and will take an unscheduled about turn. They aren't complete idiots so knew the album was going to divide more than AM and it realistically isn't a permanent direction they will take. The critical reception has been pretty good and the gigs they did sold really well.

As for not touring, they did a fair amount of festivals last year and quite a lot of sizable gigs off the back of it in the UK, Europe and elsewhere. Just checked and it appears they are still going in Australia and South America.

I can see them taking a break after they finish in south america... they would have been touring for a year then. I would love it if they threw a Glasto slot on the end though. 

[Hugh Jass]

1 minute ago, The Martini Police said:

I think you're way off on this one. Making music of any certain nature to please people is exactly the opposite of what Arctic Monkeys are and there's plenty of evidence to prove it. Take '09-'11 for example. Humbug had a similarly divisive response but did they go and make another like their debut or 2nd? No, they changed paths completely again to create the poppier SIAS. Expect another change of course that's perfectly in line with Turner's attitude - always looking forward, serial songwriter, always trying new things. Fitting lyrics from way back:

Don't care if it's marketing suicide
We won't crack or compromise
Your derisory divides
Will never unhinge us

I could easily be way off, but I do think it's strange they're seemingly going back to ground so soon after releasing the album.

[SwedgeAntilles]

9 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I could easily be way off, but I do think it's strange they're seemingly going back to ground so soon after releasing the album.

Was there not also an interview last year when they said they'd enjoyed record TBHC so much they were keen to get back into the studio straight away?

[The Martini Police]

1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said:

I could easily be way off, but I do think it's strange they're seemingly going back to ground so soon after releasing the album.

11 months after the album vs 14 months after on the AM tour. Yeah it's still possible they might do a second set of European festivals (despite little credible suggestion they that will) to make it similar length but I don't think it's particularly strange if they don't. Looks to be a similar amount of time after compared to pre-AM albums too, if not longer.

[mufcok]

2 minutes ago, SwedgeAntilles said:

Was there not also an interview last year when they said they'd enjoyed record TBHC so much they were keen to get back into the studio straight away?

Yeah I'm sure I remember reading something like that

[SwedgeAntilles]

“We’ve not quite reached a conclusion on what we’re gonna do but, I’d like to, yeah,” Turner said of an imminent return to the studio.  “I’ve really been enjoying playing this one on the road and that excitement of playing together could lead to jumping back in the studio. Whereas, like when we made this Tranquility Base one, that wasn’t coming off the back of a tour.” 

http://www.beat.com.au/music/arctic-monkeys-say-theyre-ready-return-studio-suggest-kevin-parker-produce

Maybe it wasn't as conclusive as I'd remembered but certainly was an option they were considering

[Havors]

Anyway with regards to headliners.... are we still going on the fact ME said "2 or 3 of the acts haven't played before" and EE said we have a "couple of guys"... Was ME just talking about acts in general or headliners? Or is he becoming a bit like Prince Philip now and just says random things? 

IF what ME said is true and what EE said is true then we have Stormzy (a bloke) but hes played before so would mean the other 2 headliners would have to not have played before and one would have to be a bloke? 

Or can we just ignore everything they say as blowing smoke up our arses to keep up guessing? 

[Gucci Piggy]

1 minute ago, Havors said:

Anyway with regards to headliners.... are we still going on the fact ME said "2 or 3 of the acts haven't played before" and EE said we have a "couple of guys"... Was ME just talking about acts in general or headliners? Or is he becoming a bit like Prince Philip now and just says random things? 

IF what ME said is true and what EE said is true then we have Stormzy (a bloke) but hes played before so would mean the other 2 headliners would have to not have played before and one would have to be a bloke? 

Or can we just ignore everything they say as blowing smoke up our arses to keep up guessing? 

Well with the quote about 2 or 3 acts who've have played before, it's something he always says and I think I remember that it wasn't even specifically about headliners, just the bigger acts on the lineup, in which case you've already got Kylie, and he could even have potentially been including subs or whatever in that.

And on the "couple of blokes" thing it definitely sounded to me like she was saying all the headliners were male, otherwise it doesn't really make any sense to specify the male acts. So I think the remaining headliners will both be males.

[eFestivals]

10 minutes ago, Havors said:

are we still going on the fact ME said "2 or 3 of the acts haven't played before"

ignore that, its likely to be rubbish. Michael makes stuff up when it's a quote like that.

[Havors]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

ignore that, its likely to be rubbish. Michael makes stuff up when it's a quote like that.

Yeah i was thinking that... Get the impression Emily has complete control of booking and who she wants.