2019 Headliners

[jparx]

I think I'd have them in a similar bracket to Stone Roses in that they have been active doing big shows, but I can't see them headlining Glastonbury at this stage.

Would be a nice surprise though!

[chemica]

However, if GF have booked two ‘big acts’, I’m sure The Cure could fall into the ‘weaker’ category as some have called it. As they would jump at the chance to play, I’m sure. 

[Rose-Colored Boy]

I just don't see why they'd book The Cure these days, at all. Great band to those who've heard of them but they're neither relevant or 'classic' enough to appeal to 50% of the people on site, which is the minimum requirement. You'd just be begging for overcrowding elsewhere.

Edited September 11, 2018 by Rose-Colored Boy

[Hugh Jass]

Strange one because although they're big enough to sell 80,000 BST tickets I'm not sure they're "Glastonbury big", I think Nick Cave suffers similarly. They've done it in the past but it doesn't feel like they'll ever do it again. I'm not sure the average Glastonbury punter has the stomach for a three hour assault from them.

Said before that I'd give them three hours on the Other one night and let them go nuts.

[jparx]

Where do we reckon these odds have come from then? Someone has put a load of money on them...but why?

I agree they're in that weird bracket of "big" but not "big enough", nor new and up and coming and worth taking a chance.

[Gucci Piggy]

They won't headline but they'd be better than anyone who will headline.

[EamerRed]

Yeah The Cure are definitely in a weird category. Don't really love them but if they headlined I'd 100% be watching them.

[neil_clarky]

Paul McCartney has just added a date to his tour on Weds June 26th in Phoenix Arizona...

[stuartbert two hats]

I also think The Cure would have people leaving in droves from the Pyramid, but would be too big for Other.

[Hugh Jass]

2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

I also think The Cure would have people leaving in droves from the Pyramid, but would be too big for Other.

Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split.

Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out.

[Gucci Piggy]

2 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split.

Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out.

I don't think they'd overfill it by any means but I also don't think they'd accept anything but headlining the Pyramid. Don't think I've ever seen them take a non-headline slot anywhere.

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, Hugh Jass said:

Depends who they're up against, stick them up against a huge pop artist (Beyoncé, T. Swizzle) on the Pyramid and you would get a good split.

Giving them three hours also means people can dip in and out.

Yeah, they might get away with Other actually, but I can't see them doing it.  Asked years ago why they hardly ever play the UK, Robert Smith replied "it's a big world".  A common theme on here is the "artist's ego", something I think is massively overblown - we're generally talking about seasoned, professional career musicians.  If an artist can't get booked to headline a large festival anywhere in the world, then their "ego" isn't going to stop them accepting a slot subbing the Pyramid or headlining Other.  But if you can decide to saunter round Europe every few year filling arenas in every city, then why would you bother playing second fiddle at an English festival for peanuts?

It's the Depeche Mode bind - doing anything else but headlining isn't worth their while and offering either band a headline slot would be a mistake, at least if their are other, better options, which there usually are going by the last few years.

[Gucci Piggy]

Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too.

1. Tape
    
2. Open
    
3. Kyoto Song
    
4. A Night Like This
    
5. The Baby Screams
    
6. Push
    
7. In Between Days
    
8. Sinking
    
9. Pictures of You
    
10. Before Three
     
11. Lovesong
     
12. Just Like Heaven
     
13. If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
     
14. From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
15. One Hundred Years
     
16. End
     
17. Encore:
18. It Can Never Be the Same
     
19. Burn
     
20. A Forest
    (Extended Version)
21. Encore 2:
22. Shake Dog Shake
     
23. Fascination Street
     
24. Never Enough
     
25. Wrong Number
     
26. Encore 3:
27. Lullaby
     
28. The Caterpillar
     
29. Freakshow
     
30. Friday I'm in Love
     
31. Boys Don't Cry
     
32. Close to Me
     
33. Why Can't I Be You?
     
34. Three Imaginary Boys
     
35. 10:15 Saturday Night
     
36. Killing an Arab

[CaledonianGonzo]

Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway?

[Gucci Piggy]

I think he said they were naff the last time they played or something but I can never find it when I look for it so idk.

[fightoffyour]

1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway?

This also rules Morrissey out.

[stuartbert two hats]

1 minute ago, Gucci Piggy said:

Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too.

1. Tape
    
2. Open
    
3. Kyoto Song
    
4. A Night Like This
    
5. The Baby Screams
    
6. Push
    
7. In Between Days
    
8. Sinking
    
9. Pictures of You
    
10. Before Three
     
11. Lovesong
     
12. Just Like Heaven
     
13. If Only Tonight We Could Sleep
     
14. From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
15. One Hundred Years
     
16. End
     
17. Encore:
18. It Can Never Be the Same
     
19. Burn
     
20. A Forest
    (Extended Version)
21. Encore 2:
22. Shake Dog Shake
     
23. Fascination Street
     
24. Never Enough
     
25. Wrong Number
     
26. Encore 3:
27. Lullaby
     
28. The Caterpillar
     
29. Freakshow
     
30. Friday I'm in Love
     
31. Boys Don't Cry
     
32. Close to Me
     
33. Why Can't I Be You?
     
34. Three Imaginary Boys
     
35. 10:15 Saturday Night
     
36. Killing an Arab

They seem to like playing those heavy, dreary songs with no space and very little songcraft in them, which is a shame.  I saw them in the MEN on that last tour and found it pretty maddening when I realised I couldn't skip tracks like at home.  Then Lullaby came on and I remembered that they can write some great songs and sometimes know how to use space.

Far too many dirges for me though, that shit belongs on Oxylers.

[Gucci Piggy]

I think Morrissey rules himself out these days.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Morrissey's never been one for beef.

[stuartbert two hats]

3 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Isn't there Smith-Eavis beef that more or less rules them out anyway?

Regarding "beefs", I'd also see my comment on performer's "egos".  Eavis though they weren't good enough to headline.  That's not a beef, that's booking policy.  The likes of Morrissey might boycott the farm, but I don't think the festival holds grudges (E.g James and The Fall did come back in the end).

We're talking about professionals here.

 

 

[fatyeti24]

13 minutes ago, Gucci Piggy said:

Anyway they'd die on their arse headlining the Pyramid. Last time I saw them this was the setlist. Even my brother who's seen them before and likes them was wondering where the hits were before the third encore. Looks like their recent BST and Bestival setlists were similar, too.

 

Three encores!  Fucking three!  That's reason enough to ban them from appearing.

[Gucci Piggy]

5 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

Three encores!  Fucking three!  That's reason enough to ban them from appearing.

Weird init. More songs in the encores than the main set.

[evilduck]

Their weird, overly-long set actually went down well at Reading from what I can remember, so maybe theres a chance it could work on the Pyramid. I'm a big fan though and I always love their 3 hour sets, though I can understand most people don't!

 

[Gucci Piggy]

9 minutes ago, evilduck said:

Their weird, overly-long set actually went down well at Reading from what I can remember, so maybe theres a chance it could work on the Pyramid. I'm a big fan though and I always love their 3 hour sets, though I can understand most people don't!

 

That setlist is a bit more friendly, though, with the hits better spread through the show. I was at the equivalent Leeds show and it's still one of my favourite gigs ever, but I dunno how well it went down with the whole crowd (I know the crowd was pretty tiny, though). My friends who weren't already Cure fans didn't enjoy it, although we were all 16 at the time so probably not who it was really aimed at.

Weird booking, thinking about it.

[brettredmayne]

27 minutes ago, fatyeti24 said:

Three encores!  Fucking three!  That's reason enough to ban them from appearing.

Radiohead do 3 encores