Headliners 2015

[math125]

Which is why Neil's suggestion they wanted their last UK gig to be Glasto and the band approached them seems more likely to me.

Haven't they already said although they won't be doing massive tours with loads of travelling they still plan to play gigs. Also bit harsh on the hard core fans. Wouldn't they do a stadium gig to give their fans a chance to buy tickets?

[jobleakley1]

Why would the delay be for selling tickets? Everyone who could hypothetically buy tickets for their other date will be at Glastonbury anyway as it's the same weekend?

I read Neil's reply to my post as it being a contractual arrangement with BST, even though no one from Glastonbury would buy tickets to the BST show, perhaps others who aren't going to Glastonbury and who may buy tickets for the BST show might not bother if they knew that they could see the set a few days later on live TV, particularly as the BST tickets are so expensive.

[ukmountie]

Dizzy in the head and I feel blue,

Thought I had tickets to see the Who,

Calling the airline again and again,

They say "we know how it feels but"

Can't exchange,

Can't cancel to,

You clicked accept,

There's nothing we can do.

Can't exchange,

(can't exchange)

I have a hotel and flight but,

Can't exchange.

[eFestivals]

Dammit, I meant to quote a post and deleted it instead... My apologie to that poster.

It asked why but would want glasto kept quiet when people can't go to both.

Yet people can go to both.

And why would bst want its brand undermined anyway?

Promoters tend not to say no if a band asks them as that might be counter productive in the long term, but that doesn't mean they're happy to roll over completely.

Edited May 3, 2015 by eFestivals

[neil999]

could they yet pull out? all this negativity might affect them..

[Martin Ashford]

70% of the '07 show is in current setlist. We've seen it before at Glasto. This hyperbole is even more unwarranted than the frothing at the mouth about Swift.

I accept that bit I've seen The Who many times over the years and the current show - particularly the visuals - is like a tribute to their history and is so well conceived and executed. When I saw it they had to cut out a big chunk as Daltrey was struggling with a stinking cold. Even incomplete it was one of the best gigs I've seen in years. So I'm well up for seeing it on the Pyramid.

[MEGABOWL]

could they yet pull out? all this negativity might affect them..

What negativity? A few people on here and a The Who forum complaining about the Paris gig getting cancelled? Can't see it. If Kanye didn't cancel because of a load of sheep jumping on a petition bandwagon The Who won't be cancelling.

[MichaelsBeard]

Dammit, I meant to quote a post and deleted it instead... My apologie to that poster.

It asked why but would want glasto kept quiet when people can't go to both.

Yet people can go to both.

And why would bst want its brand undermined anyway?

Promoters tend not to say no if a band asks them as that might be counter productive in the long term, but that doesn't mean they're happy to roll over completely.

Surely they wouldn't be a significant number of people, significant enough to delay an announcement, that would hypothetically go to Glastonbury and BST on the same weekend? Especially considering Glasto is a 5 day event. People would leave after Friday to see The Who in Hyde Park then either not return to the festival or some all the way back for one day? Edited May 3, 2015 by MichaelsBeard

[MEGABOWL]

Surely they wouldn't be a significant number of people, significant enough to delay an announcement, that would hypothetically go to Glastonbury and BST on the same weekend? Especially considering Glasto is a 5 day event. People would leave after Friday to see The Who in Hyde Park then either not return to the festival or some all the way back for one day?

It'll be BST stopping the announcement because they're worried they'll lose out on ticket sales to Glastonbury goers or even people who'll stay at home and watch the Glasto set on the BBC

[MEGABOWL]

any music fan of any thourght would boycott there set if indeed the story turns out to be true......as that is shitting on fans on a whole new level...and shame on glastonbury for having a hand in it if thats the case. I certainly wouldnt be giving them any of my attention, im not a who fan, I didnt have tickets to the paris show...but its the principal of not respecting or giving time to artists who delibratly would shit on paying fans in such a way.

Most people won't care. Crap behaviour by the band sure, but that's not the problem of anyone at Worthy on the 28th who wants to see the Who. Didn't stop people going to see Morrissey in 2011. I won't be there but that's not a principle thing, I'm just not fussed.

[fatyeti24]

Surely they wouldn't be a significant number of people, significant enough to delay an announcement, that would hypothetically go to Glastonbury and BST on the same weekend? Especially considering Glasto is a 5 day event. People would leave after Friday to see The Who in Hyde Park then either not return to the festival or some all the way back for one day?

a promoter would probably be loathed to risk losing a single ticket, plus having the band on elsewhere that weekend would 'dilute' the BST selling point for their gig.

if they can have the Glasto announcement delayed as long as possible, why wouldn't they?

[Martin Ashford]

Foo Fighters Friday, Moody Blues Saturday, The Who Sunday and still lots unannounced. Looks like a perfect weekend for me!

[Daniel Comino Royuela]

_{...maybe when they said the 3º headliner won't be said 'till june the first beacuse of doing others shows, they were meaning actually doing other show... on the same day!!!}

_XDD

[frostypaw]

With the cat seemingly thoroughly out of the bag and on a national paper with a sadly huge circulation I'm surprised we've not had official word - even with these other gigs to go it's too late to pretend now surely?

My suspicion that this is a well orchestrated set of diversionary tactics continues - with new management in charge at the festival I expect new tricks. Feels a bit more like wishful thinking now but only time will tell

[Fivefingerjohn]

any music fan of any thourght would boycott there set if indeed the story turns out to be true......as that is shitting on fans on a whole new level...and shame on glastonbury for having a hand in it if thats the case. I certainly wouldnt be giving them any of my attention, im not a who fan, I didnt have tickets to the paris show...but its the principal of not respecting or giving time to artists who delibratly would shit on paying fans in such a way.

Yet if it was an act u liked ud be there

[Matt42]

With the cat seemingly thoroughly out of the bag and on a national paper with a sadly huge circulation I'm surprised we've not had official word - even with these other gigs to go it's too late to pretend now surely?

My suspicion that this is a well orchestrated set of diversionary tactics continues - with new management in charge at the festival I expect new tricks. Feels a bit more like wishful thinking now but only time will tell

Yup, as I said earlier. If we're gonna get an announcement before the refund deadline it will be on the 5th May due to events and such. I won't be surprised if the Who break the June Embargo thing and get announced. As this has spread like wildfire, pretty much everyone knows.

[Martin Ashford]

Most people here are a pathetic bunch of people.

A bunch of snobs.

Oh so n so no.A isn't good enough to headline they are awful. I'm going to watch so n so B.

But when when so n so B headline in a few years...o they are shit I'm off to watch so n so C

And the cycle goes on.

Bunch of musical snobby toffy losers on the whole

I wouldn't say that but I think there are a whole load of disappointed Blur fans in the mix

[Martin Ashford]

Would be pretty c**tish of them to screw over 6000 hardcore fans, but i would certainly see them, incredible live

They would draw a crowd not far off Stones level too, which would fit in with expanding the pyramid capacity

I agree particularly if it's touted as the last chance to see them ( although I don't think it will be personally as they are on such good form)

[bennyhana22]

Copied from the The Who thread as a perfect example of how what is being proposed by The Who and GF shows contempt and disrespect for real people, their feelings, their expenditure, and the fact that they are the entire reason why musical artists have any success.

Francis, presumably French given that his post on The Who forum is in French, will now NOT be getting an amazing 50th birthday. Because others are selfish and thoughtless...

Ben

I feel sorry for this guy

Francis wrote January 25, 2015 at 11:13
I turn 50 on June 28 and I'll see my favorite band , that's a nice birthday present!

http://www.gdp.fr/fr/node/471

Unless he meant he was going to Glastonbury of course

[bennyhana22]

I don't care if it has precedent, if Morrissey or bleedin' Elvis did it. It's not right, it's not morally defensible, and I can't understand why some people seem to brush it off as not a big deal.

Sure, it's a First World problem, but that doesn't make it any less morally reprehensible.

Boo to The Who

Ben

Edited May 3, 2015 by bennyhana22

[Winslow Leach]

I don't care if it has precedent, if Morrissey or bleedin' Elvis did it. It's not right, it's not morally defensible, and I can't understand why some people seem to brush it off as not a big deal.

Sure, it's a First World problem, but that doesn't make it any less morally reprehensible.

Boo to The Who

Ben

I'm with you there Ben. Shows total disregard for the fans who are keeping you in a job.

[eFestivals]

Surely they wouldn't be a significant number of people, significant enough to delay an announcement, that would hypothetically go to Glastonbury and BST on the same weekend? Especially considering Glasto is a 5 day event. People would leave after Friday to see The Who in Hyde Park then either not return to the festival or some all the way back for one day?

if you think you're getting £x thousands of pounds via a contact that says "no other shows allowed", how many thousands of pounds of it are you happy to give away when you have a contract that says you don't have to give any of it away?

In the big scheme of things, the amount of money might be small. In the detail - to that promoter - that difference might be the difference between a profit and a loss on that show.

(based on hearsay of other BST shows, it's probably in reality an amount that will make the amount of losses lesser by that amount),

You need to stop and think about how any investor does just about everything they can to protect their investment. That's what's the driver of restrictive clauses in band's contracts, and to expect any investor to willingly give away part of their investment isn't anything you'd suggest for outside of the music biz, I reckon.

Edited May 3, 2015 by eFestivals

[Mardy]

Yet if it was an act u liked ud be there

Nah, you see, some people have principles and beliefs. And can see a bigger picture.

[eFestivals]

With the cat seemingly thoroughly out of the bag and on a national paper with a sadly huge circulation I'm surprised we've not had official word - even with these other gigs to go it's too late to pretend now surely?

Glastonbury will have a contract with the band which says "can't be announced until XYZ". Glastonbury will be honouring that contract unless the people they have the contract with (The Who) tell them diffierently.

The Who will have a contract with a promoter which says "other shows can't be announced until XYZ". The Who will be honouring that contract unless the people they have the contract with (BST) tell them diffierently.

BST have their own commercial interests. Why do you think they'd willingly work against their own interests?

At the end of the day BST might decide it's in their interests to come clean to have a reputation for honesty, but that would still be working against their financial interests around that one particular BST show.

(PS: it might not be the who after all, I won't know for certain until you do. But all of the same ideas hold true for whoever the band is.)

[dentalplan]

The mod on that forum

Bet there's loads.