Quark Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 Either that or you went to see them in their early days and had some kind of traumatic front row cock / sock event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted April 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 An unroasted Keidis is the controversial Keidis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 I've not got to his book yet. I'm just not mentally prepared for the enchilada of love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 Look, we can’t just say “yeah but what about Keidis” every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Hugh Jass said: Look, we can’t just say “yeah but what about Keidis” every time. Anthony Keidis has become the "Hillary's emails" of eFests... good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 Back on topic I'll concede a hasty response to fade outs as all bad. They aren't. But what they so often feel like is a get out clause for someone who couldn't figure out how to finish a song. They're the Stephen King endings of the music world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelzoid Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said: I honestly rarely notice and didn't even twig until now that it could be considered a plus or minus - unless the band do something flash e.g. the way the Smashing Pumpkins conclude Rocket. Keeping it to the Stones, off the top of my head Gimme Shelter fades out but Brown Sugar ends conclusively. And I wouldn't say either approach is superior to the other. It's a far greater musical crime to be Anthony Kiedis with a sock on your willy rapping about the demon in your semen. The Pumpkins are a great example of this. Mellon Collie is almost entirely songs with composed endings (28 of them at that), but the few fade-outs are very deliberate, and occur on the couple of great songs with fade-ins for the intro. If nothing else, Corgan is very deliberate with what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 Fuck Keidis it is all about Kelis. Sometimes, usually late at night, Kelis is just the greatest. No Contest (on topic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 A year on, I still listen to this at least once a week. For me it is the Lock-down masterpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamber Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 Hell, the Lock-down masterpiece? What are you all waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero000 Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 hours ago, bamber said: Fuck Keidis it is all about Kelis. Sometimes, usually late at night, Kelis is just the greatest. No Contest (on topic) Absolute banger. Big fan of the Dave Aude Remix too if you’ve not heard it. The scratching on that live version is however terrible and completely ruins the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 Uncontroversial take: Radmac eating crisps into the mic every Saturday morning is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmillen Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Uncontroversial take: Radmac eating crisps into the mic every Saturday morning is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of radio. I dunno, irritating as that is I’m not sure it’s as bad as the Shirehorses (aka Mark & Lard) parody albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Uncontroversial take: Radmac eating crisps into the mic every Saturday morning is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of radio. I’d be fairly certain that at some point in time Jonny Vaughan has done something worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) On 4/30/2021 at 8:21 AM, Quark said: Least controversial opinion on the thread. No-one really likes a fade out. I like fade outs that introduce a new element, The Beatles did it often. See Doctor Robert, Ticket To Ride and Hello, Goodbye. Edited May 1, 2021 by stuartbert two hats Not Dr Robot, although I'd love to watch that TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffJeff Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said: I like fade outs that introduce a new element, The Beatles did it often. See Doctor Robot, Ticket To Ride and Hello, Goodbye. And fade outs like street spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbailey80 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Every band influenced by The Velvet Underground write weak songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartbert two hats Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 hours ago, danbailey80 said: Every band influenced by The Velvet Underground write weak songs. That's...quite a sweeping statement. Even David Bowie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Queen Bitch was the first thing that popped into my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, danbailey80 said: Every band influenced by The Velvet Underground write weak songs. The Mary Chain? Get outta here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Patti Smith, Jonathan Richman, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, Brian Eno, LCD Soundsystem etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Patti Smith, Jonathan Richman, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, Brian Eno, LCD Soundsystem etc etc Which tempts me to say every band influenced by The Velvet Underground are better than The Velvet Underground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted May 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Not U2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbailey80 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, stuartbert two hats said: That's...quite a sweeping statement. Even David Bowie? Fair enough. You can have Bowie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbailey80 Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said: Which tempts me to say every band influenced by The Velvet Underground are better than The Velvet Underground. Ha. Yes this. I think what I meant to say was I think Velvet Underground are massively overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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