When will this shit end?

[zahidf]

NHS leaders in England admitted to the Guardian that they fear that the row in Europe will lead to Britons shunning the AZ jab.

Ruth Rankine, primary care director at the NHS Confederation, which represents the 1,260 primary care networks of GP surgeries that have played a key role in the rollout, said:

Health leaders are concerned that the decisions from some European countries to temporarily suspend the roll out of the AstraZeneca vaccine will affect how confident people in England are about getting immunised, despite the EMA not having altered its license and the World Health Organisation explaining that there is no reason to stop administering it.

“This is particularly worrying as it is coming at a time when the national lockdown restrictions are beginning to be relaxed, when our vaccine stock has increased this week, and when we can see the benefits of the vaccinations coming through in reduced transmission.

“It is right that all concerns are investigated thoroughly and our members will continue to be guided by the advice of our independent regulator [the MHRA], which has maintained that both vaccines available in the UK are safe.”

[westholtschic]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

55+

(officially)

Torbay are doing 50+ at the moment, I’ve got my jab tomorrow and a lot of my friends are having theirs this week.

Edited March 15, 2021 by westholtschic

[eFestivals]

Just pissed off my buv in Germany by being a bit too factual about germanys decisionto to pause with the AZ vaccine. 

[Hannibal Schmitt]

12 minutes ago, zahidf said:

NHS leaders in England admitted to the Guardian that they fear that the row in Europe will lead to Britons shunning the AZ jab.

Ruth Rankine, primary care director at the NHS Confederation, which represents the 1,260 primary care networks of GP surgeries that have played a key role in the rollout, said:

Health leaders are concerned that the decisions from some European countries to temporarily suspend the roll out of the AstraZeneca vaccine will affect how confident people in England are about getting immunised, despite the EMA not having altered its license and the World Health Organisation explaining that there is no reason to stop administering it.

“This is particularly worrying as it is coming at a time when the national lockdown restrictions are beginning to be relaxed, when our vaccine stock has increased this week, and when we can see the benefits of the vaccinations coming through in reduced transmission.

“It is right that all concerns are investigated thoroughly and our members will continue to be guided by the advice of our independent regulator [the MHRA], which has maintained that both vaccines available in the UK are safe.”

You can give also Spain and Slovenia on the List of these European countries

[parsonjack]

4 hours ago, gooner1990 said:

Rather you than me, although I suspect you know what you're letting yourself in for when you buy a house that close! 🙂

God can you imagine!  200,000 people invading your streets, blocking the roads, keeping you awake until all hours. Outrageous.  I'd never consider moving anywhere such a thing would happen, even if it was just for a few days a year.

Oh.....hang on.

[Fuzzy Afro]

1 hour ago, efcfanwirral said:

It's really interesting that many people (not necessarily on here) won't even accept this it's emergency use and these things need investigating, which sounds to me like sound scientific process and

I'd be very concerned if these things were being swept under the carpet- if it turned out something could be done or certain people told to get a different brand or whatever even just to be sure, then we'd all be furious if they pressed ahead and us or a loved one suffered for it needlessly just to get everything done quickly (I'm talking hypothetically). and if it I'd a bad batch then surely stopping temporarily to get it out of circulation is better than using it??

But I suppose on the flip side there are bigger issues than a handful of people which I think explains the sentiment against this caution 

And why is it so politicised against the EU, as if they're tarnishing the good name of the "British" vaccine just for a laugh? I'd Still prefer to live there than here...

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

[efcfanwirral]

1 minute ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

"Hostile foreign power"? God I hate little England. 

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, Simsy said:

Haha, I also wasn't alive then. Just read about the involvement of people like Arabella Churchill (I'm not saying that she was a champagne socialist, just that hippies weren't necessarily a working class thing).

Yeah, I understand there was a bit more "character" before the fence went up. I'm white and middle class so I didn't start going till the noughties! (Although in my defence I was a child before then.)

I remember being shocked to see some non white people in there, but fortunately they were removed after I complained.

[Hannibal Schmitt]

One of the few cases Germanys dooming Health/Virology Economist Karl Lauterbach (SPD) words on the stopping of the AZ vaccine are absolutely right:

Based on the fulfillment data, I think this is a mistake. Testing without suspension of vaccination was better because of the rarity of the complication. In the third wave, which is now picking up speed, the first vaccinations with the AstraZeneca vaccine are lifeguards.

[steviewevie]

33 minutes ago, westholtschic said:

Torbay are doing 50+ at the moment, I’ve got my jab tomorrow and a lot of my friends are having theirs this week.

yeah, a friend of mine in London turned 50 on Friday and got an invite for a vaccine the next day, london twat.

[philipsteak]

17 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

Fuckin hell

[steviewevie]

21 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

Hear hear you silly twat.

Edited March 15, 2021 by steviewevie
here here or hear hear? discuss.

[stuartbert two hats]

20 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

It's not.

[oneeye]

37 minutes ago, westholtschic said:

Torbay are doing 50+ at the moment, I’ve got my jab tomorrow and a lot of my friends are having theirs this week.

Yep, same here in Tegnbridge area, we've got our first jab this Thurs. Similarly, a work colleague who lives in Burgess Hill has his booked for  this Friday, age 54. Good to see the rollout continues to gather momentum 👍😘

[eFestivals]

22 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

They're smearing it to divert attention from their Own fuckkups as politicians do

Edited March 15, 2021 by eFestivals

[zahidf]

21 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

That's exactly what's happened here. A hostile foreign power is seeking to smear a (perfectly good) vaccine for no reason other than the fact that it's a British vaccine. 

 

They tried this previously with the trial data on over 65's and ended up with egg on their face, and now they're jumping on it again at the first sign of any adverse effect.

 

The motivation behind this may be partially Brexit related, but also sour grapes that the EU-backed GSK/Sanofi effort turned out to be a complete dud while the Oxford effort actually works.

 

Incredibly reassuring that our world beating scientists are defending the vaccine, and that hundreds of thousands of Brits will have the Oxford/AZ effort to help get our country out of this mess while the Europeans continue to dither and delay.

Lol they are acting a bit silly but you're taking it too far

[steviewevie]

Just now, Barry Fish said:

People need to wise up to the realities of our post brexit world.

EU are our competitors?

Should end well.

[zahidf]

 

 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Basically they failed to procure enough of the good vaccine and instead bet the house on the dud GSK/Sanofi effort so they're covering their own backs by smearing it.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Fuzzy Afro said:

Basically they failed to procure enough of the good vaccine and instead bet the house on the dud GSK/Sanofi effort so they're covering their own backs by smearing it.

oh no they're not.

[efcfanwirral]

20 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Absolutely 

You have upset the children  😀

Happy to admit my political views are childish but I'm pretty sure my hatred of England won't change as I get older 😂

[eFestivals]

11 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Basically they failed to procure enough of the good vaccine and instead bet the house on the dud GSK/Sanofi effort so they're covering their own backs by smearing it.

It's not just the UK which has lying shits as politicians.

[steviewevie]

Dispatches on Ch4 at 8 for some long covid porn.

Edited March 15, 2021 by steviewevie

[efcfanwirral]

21 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

People need to wise up to the realities of our post brexit world.

Yeah some of us stuck on this hateful little island who would rather not be, as the majority clap and cheer as our own government destroys it from within.  

(Always have to caveat this with - there was no alternative at the last election) 

Edited March 15, 2021 by efcfanwirral

[steviewevie]

This really is a shit thread these days.

Edited March 15, 2021 by steviewevie