When will this shit end?

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Hopefully from today / tomoro  we might see some impacts of tier 4 ... at least on infections in London .... to counteract the bad shit above 

I have a feeling that we've yet to see the peak in London and the SE. The next 6/7 days will prove if mixing over the Christmas period was a good idea 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

I have a feeling that we've yet to see the peak in London and the SE. The next 6/7 days will prove if mixing over the Christmas period was a good idea 

Depends how much the stay at home message got through I guess 😞 

[zahidf]

 

[Crazyfool01]

Sobering tweet this one 😞 

[gigpusher]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Depends how much the stay at home message got through I guess 😞 

I think we'll find for a lot of people it didn't. So many snuck out before the new tiers were introduced. 

[gigpusher]

1 minute ago, crazyfool1 said:

Sobering tweet this one 😞 

Russ has been very good at posting the ineptitude of the government throughout this. He's also a decent artist and I met him through Twitter and commissioned him to do a painting for me. He has become considerably more famous since that happened. 

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, gigpusher said:

I think we'll find for a lot of people it didn't. So many snuck out before the new tiers were introduced. 

I guess what we saw in the newspapers and on the net was the bad news like the queues at stations etc ..... what we have to hope is that this is balanced by those that stayed at home ... we are going to see very shortly ... Now tier 4 with schools shut here ... and traffic levels are still too high 

[gigpusher]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I guess what we saw in the newspapers and on the net was the bad news like the queues at stations etc ..... what we have to hope is that this is balanced by those that stayed at home ... we are going to see very shortly ... Now tier 4 with schools shut here ... and traffic levels are still too high 

Yes I work with a lot of people who usually live in London and anecdotally their locations seems to have changed a lot throughout the year depending on how locked down London is. I understand it London flats can't be a great place to live 24/7 especially those in crappy house shares etc but it will have an impact on transmission that so many leave every time there is a chance of lockdown. 

Edited December 31, 2020 by gigpusher

[zahidf]

16 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Sobering tweet this one 😞 

I dont think being more like China is the answer.

[stuartbert two hats]

Just now, zahidf said:

I dont think being more like China is the answer.

Which is why we're so fucked.

[parsonjack]

13 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I guess what we saw in the newspapers and on the net was the bad news like the queues at stations etc ..... what we have to hope is that this is balanced by those that stayed at home ... we are going to see very shortly ... Now tier 4 with schools shut here ... and traffic levels are still too high 

Bracing myself for the inevitable media reports and shots of New Year revellers flouting restrictions tomorrow....although the channels are clearly going to be focusing on what I hope will be the minority.

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I dont think being more like China is the answer.

Instead we have semi lockdowns ongoing ... and we wait for this vaccine to lift us out of this after more than a year ... personally and I would do what is necessary restriction wise to have cut this crap down ... and have been doing so pretty much since feb ... I’ve self imposed tier 4 on myself ... with one visit to the pub I could have easily cut out ... when will this shit  end ? Who knows ?! 

Edited December 31, 2020 by crazyfool1

[zahidf]

3 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Instead we have semi lockdowns ongoing ... and we wait for this vaccine to lift us out of this after more than a year ... personally and I would do what is necessary restriction wise to have cut this crap down ... and have been doing so pretty much since feb ... I’ve self imposed tier 4 on myself ... with one visit to the pub I could have easily cut out ... when will this shit  end ? Who knows ?! 

But China are jailing journalists who broke the covid story first. And testing their vaccines in the Muslim concentration camps.You can't have one aspect of Chinese state response without the other. 

Edited December 31, 2020 by zahidf

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, zahidf said:

But China are jailing journalists who broke the covid story first. You can't have one aspect of Chinese state response without the other. 

Why can’t you ? Of course the human rights aspect is absolutely wrong ... but there are other countries that have also nailed the response . Without those human rights atrocities ... 

[Homer]

I'm sure there would be some on this island who woudn't mind the whole Muslim concentration camps angle.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Homer said:

I'm sure there would be some on this island who woudn't mind the whole Muslim concentration camps angle.

Well apologies for wanting the end of this absolute bollocks 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Instead we have semi lockdowns ongoing ...

A semi-anything is good for nothing

[Mr.Tease]

25 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Sobering tweet this one 😞 

The worst thing is- it's not just that we messed up back then, it's that we've messed up repeatedly over the past year and seem to learn nothing at all from any of the mess ups. Summer is completely barmy when you look back at it- the government just seemingly deciding that it was all over and done with, and everything would be fine by Christmas, encouraging/threatening everyone to bin home working and eat out on mass.

It's not even as though we don't have good info and predictable outcomes any more- this last quarter has been like a slow motion disaster unfolding when at each stage you could see what was going to happen. Fair enough, maybe not the new variant, but I think we were still set on this path with the original ending of the lockdown a few weeks ago and the plans to have a 5 day Christmas bonanza at the worst time of the year for stresses on the NHS and higher transmission rate conditions for the virus.

[parsonjack]

Perhaps we need a bit of this for this evening......?

BBC News - Covid: France mobilises 100,000 police to stop New Year's Eve gatherings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55493934

[Homer]

Just now, parsonjack said:

Perhaps we need a bit of this for this evening......?

BBC News - Covid: France mobilises 100,000 police to stop New Year's Eve gatherings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55493934

As long as it doesn;t come to this, am fine.

[zahidf]

7 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Why can’t you ? Of course the human rights aspect is absolutely wrong ... but there are other countries that have also nailed the response . Without those human rights atrocities ... 

Well yes. I'm referring to the china reference. (And I dont trust the China numbers)

[Homer]

5 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Well apologies for wanting the end of this absolute bollocks 

Certainly not aimed at you mate and agree that we very certainly could have done things better!

[zahidf]

Just now, Homer said:

As long as it doesn;t come to this, am fine.

 

[st dan]

We should just lockdown every New Years Eve anyway as it is hands down the worst day/night of the year. Just everything about it is terrible. 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Well yes. I'm referring to the china reference. (And I dont trust the China numbers)

Yep those numbers do not look totally right ... but some things do escape China and they do seem to be more on a path to some semi normality ... remember we did get the initial photos of where they were struggling with hospitals etc and we don’t anymore ... maybe they have clamped down on it ..