When will this shit end?

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Even May might have done a decent job, come to think about it (though she would have been torn apart by her backbenchers for the lockdowns). She's an administrator with an eye for detail, so would have finally had a moment to shine.

But yeah, anyone but Johnson is really the only thing I feel you can say with confidence.

she's also a type 1 diabetic so might have had some sympathy and thought for the vulnerable ....

[Leyrulion]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

I know he's a centrist narcissist sociopath satanist war monger but I would actually pick Blair out of that lot.

Not so sure on that, I remember the foot and mouth outbreak being pretty badly controlled at the start!

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Even May might have done a decent job, come to think about it (though she would have been torn apart by her backbenchers for the lockdowns). She's an administrator with an eye for detail, so would have finally had a moment to shine.

But yeah, anyone but Johnson is really the only thing I feel you can say with confidence.

I was thinking Brown too just for the way he handled the banking crash in 2008....but apparently he was very indecisive and was obsessed with public opinion.

May might have done ok too...hard to know as her whole time in charge was the constant brexit chaos and the cock up she made of the 2017 election campaign.

[ShakeyCrash]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

I was thinking Brown too just for the way he handled the banking crash in 2008....but apparently he was very indecisive and was obsessed with public opinion.

May might have done ok too...hard to know as her whole time in charge was the constant brexit chaos and the cock up she made of the 2017 election campaign.

I would have gone for Brown to be honest.

[Losing my hair]

5 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Even May might have done a decent job, come to think about it (though she would have been torn apart by her backbenchers for the lockdowns). She's an administrator with an eye for detail, so would have finally had a moment to shine.

But yeah, anyone but Johnson is really the only thing I feel you can say with confidence.

She could have reused the Go Home vans as Stay at Home vans. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Leyrulion said:

Not so sure on that, I remember the foot and mouth outbreak being pretty badly controlled at the start!

oh, ok..can't really remember back then...

I mean I understand why people have picked Thatcher as she is tough etc (and it's a Mail poll), but would she be ok with all the state spending and anti-libertarian stuff? Maybe she would have...she was probably not as right wing as many tory MPs and ministers are now.

[MEGABOWL]

7 minutes ago, Leyrulion said:

Not so sure on that, I remember the foot and mouth outbreak being pretty badly controlled at the start!

It was but Private Eye did a big thing about that earlier this year. Blair Government was entirely taking advice from a guy called Neil Ferguson. Whatever happened to him?

[SheffJeff]

43 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, MEGABOWL said:

It was but Private Eye did a big thing about that earlier this year. Blair Government was entirely taking advice from a guy called Neil Ferguson. Whatever happened to him?

shows that science behind these pandemics is full of uncertainty.

[tigger123]

14 minutes ago, Copperface said:

Hancock: We will be back to normal before 2022

The last question comes from Arj Singh from HuffPost. He asks if, given the highly-transmissible new variant, the government is guilty of overpromising by suggesting the UK can return to normality by Easter.

Hancock replies that he is "highly confident we will get things back to normal before 2022" adding that the speed of the vaccine roll-out is accelerating.

 

Your incessant smugness and need to always be right is infuriating.

Yes Glastonbury probably won’t go ahead, yes it may be longer than Easter til we’re back to normal, but hope and trying to be positive helps a lot of people get through this horrible situation, myself included, especially when it’s all so shit at the moment. Your consistent doom mongering and shooting down any ray of hope does not help this. I’m sure you’ll have a come back as you always do but just had to be honest I’m afraid.

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

Your incessant smugness and need to always be right is infuriating.

Yes Glastonbury probably won’t go ahead, yes it may be longer than Easter til we’re back to normal, but hope and trying to be positive helps a lot of people get through this horrible situation, myself included, especially when it’s all so shit at the moment. Your consistent doom mongering and shooting down any ray of hope does not help this. I’m sure you’ll have a come back as you always do but just had to be honest I’m afraid.

room for optimism and pessimism on this thread I reckon.

The pessimists have mostly called this right so far after all...

[steviewevie]

moving on rapidly....kind of interested what is in this brexit deal and how it will be sold. Not seeing many rants from ERG on twitter so maybe they're cool with it...Farage on the other hand has his betrayal BRINO message ready to send...

[Crazyfool01]

thanks to the Germans .... and the Sikhs yesterday 

 

[xxialac]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

room for optimism and pessimism on this thread I reckon.

The pessimists have mostly called this right so far after all...

The government have been pushing unrealistic promise and promise, that have just made people frustrated and made it impossible to plan. It's irresponsible.

So having some realism is no bad thing, as long as it's based on being informed.

And yeah, you could hardly say people on here have been predicting worse than what has come to pass.

[xxialac]

2 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

thanks to the Germans .... and the Sikhs yesterday 

 

Cool. A bit like the Berlin Airlift except it's Berliners who are playing the role of the Allies.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, xxialac said:

The government have been pushing unrealistic promise and promise, that have just made people frustrated and made it impossible to plan. It's irresponsible.

So having some realism is no bad thing, as long as it's based on being informed.

And yeah, you could hardly say people on here have been predicting worse than what has come to pass.

most people who know shit seem to think that life won't be back to normal by the spring, but it should be a whole lot better, and will continue to improve...and by late summer we'll all be in a massive foam sex party. As for Glastonbury, it maybe just too big and too early in the year to get the go ahead...but we'll have to see.

[Mr.Tease]

 

[Mr.Tease]

 

[xxialac]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

most people who know shit seem to think that life won't be back to normal by the spring, but it should be a whole lot better, and will continue to improve...and by late summer we'll all be in a massive foam sex party. As for Glastonbury, it maybe just too big and too early in the year to get the go ahead...but we'll have to see.

Is there a link to this massive foam sex party?

[xxialac]

So a statement in 36 minutes announcing with enormous fanfare that the deal struck is a huge success when in reality we've spent years of pathetic posturing only to land back where we were with May's deal?

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

 

They aren't wrong.

[xxialac]

Andrew Adonis @Andrew_Adonis

 

Johnson looks set to announce the worst trade reduction treaty in modern history - all its terms of trade deal will be worse than the membership of the European Union it replaces.

[xxialac]

9 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Is there a link to this massive foam sex party?

Maybe not actually.

I'd be worried it turned out to be a tiny sex party but with massive foam.

[zahidf]

38 minutes ago, xxialac said:

The government have been pushing unrealistic promise and promise, that have just made people frustrated and made it impossible to plan. It's irresponsible.

So having some realism is no bad thing, as long as it's based on being informed.

And yeah, you could hardly say people on here have been predicting worse than what has come to pass.

The post in question came across as gloating at the bad news I thought.

[xxialac]

Perhaps they are worried about the risk of horrific optics if we have 1,000 deaths on Christmas Eve so want to rush out the announcement late tonight to dominate the news tomorrow and distract from that.