Frankly Mr Shankly

If that was the line up I’d structure it more like this: Friday: Bring Me The Horizon, Architects, While She Sleeps Saturday: Metallica, Gojira, Mastodon Sunday: System of a Down, Faith No More Maybe throw Disturbed on under Faith No More. An older band headlining second against BMTH would probably be wise too, maybe Motley Crue or Judas Priest.

I’d go. Some odd placings though assuming that’s the MainStage? Why have Mastodon suddenly jumped from subbing second this year to subbing main? sandwiched between BMTH & Architects is an odd place to put them too. Architects should sub next time they play, Powerwolf and Meshuggah are a few slots too high.

They have the luxury of scaling to about 150,000 punters if needs be, so no they don’t tend to sell out.

If AEG are looking to put on something to rival Download then next year is the time to do it. Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold, Metallica, Aerosmith, Judas Priest, Five Finger Death Punch, NIN, Limp Bizkit just to name a few are all around and not doing Download/any uk fests. The problem is, as Sonisphere showed, it's not sustainable to have two large heavy/metal festivals in the UK.

Ah yeah fair, I guess we'll see. If they stick to 2pm open they're going to have to be on it at the gates for eveyone that wants to catch the first band at 5pm.

There is no arena...

Imagine having Metallica, Muse, Avenged Sevenfold, NIN, Bring Me the Horizon, Guns n Roses, Foo Fighters, Green Day, all potentially available in Europe around June but being tied in to having bloody Kiss headlining.

I didn't say they were, I was pointing out why it wasn't fair to have one rule for the vaccinated & one rule for those who aren't (predominantly younger people). Man this place is toxic of late.

Yes? I wasn't saying otherwise? He suggested vaccinated people should have no restrictions now. I pointed out why that wasn't fair. Either end for all, or push back until everyone has a chance to be vaccinated.

No, it's a way to shaft younger people again to satisfy the older generation. Young people with minimal risk endured 18 months of this to safeguard the vulnerable & elderly. Now the tables are somewhat turned you think it's fair to exclude younger people from a large part of society so that the privileged vaccinated can go back to business as usual... (I agree all restrictions should end now, but that wasn't what we were talking about here.)

In what world is that a fair way of doing it when vacine dates have been mandated by age/vulnerability... I find it amusing that a lot of older/vulnerable vaccinated people are suddenly in favour of opening up now they feel safe after their second jabs, when they were the same people in the past criticising younger people for not aderheing to the rules and waiting a little longer until the vulnerable/elderly were safe despite the risk being lower for younger people.

This isn't confirmed yet. Are we sure it's true? It's a huge line up if true & makes Download (particularly Kiss) look very weak in comparison.

Hope so, or at the very least a decent bar playing music (like the cocktail bar in 2019). Would make sense to use the second stage tent for something since it's all one big arena.

What have Megadeth done exactly to move up the lineup? If they're booking Architects, book them as the sub. An odd fit under Kiss? Sure, but let them blow Kiss off the stage & prove to everyone that newer bands should be taking those high slots.

Creeper Frank Carter & the Rattlesnakes While She Sleeps