wbarenno Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Looks liked she was miming to me?? Whats all that about?if she cant sing live dont do it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu-marc88 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I thought that the second I switched it on. The double mic thing seemed a bit dodgy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewUnion Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I was waaaaay too far back to see, but the sound improved dramatically when she switched to the hand mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfy Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 We tried to give her the benefit of the doubt - that her face was so frozen by Botox that it made it look like she was miming! However, there is no doubt that she seemed more out of breath talking between the songs than she did whilst 'singing'. More than suspicious. Still - a hugely enjoyable 'performance'. She's 68. The truth is that a that age, it is likely to go one of 2 ways, you mime it or you struggle. Kenny Roger's breathing was terrible last year, so was Debbie Harry's this year. So you can be sold short by miming or by an under par performance. I think artists like this have earned the right to choose which way they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemosabe Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 On tv it was clear... Still a good show for the audience though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauljoanss Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I watched it on TV and I am normally very sensitive to miming, but I did not notice anything suspicious except that she was out of breath between songs and never seemed to pause before starting the next song. But why was she out of breath anyway after a song if she was miming. I would go her the benefit of any doubt and say she was not miming. Sometimes on digital Tvs the sound can get out of sync which then looks like miming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themuel Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I didn't think she seemed like she mimed at all from where I was stood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed209 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I thought it was well known - Dolly mimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomThomDrum Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yep she was 100% lip syncing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budvar Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 From the start it felt like she was using a backing track (sounds better than saying she mimed) More obvious on certain numbers and she didn't for everything (e.g. her Glastonbury mud song) I was a little disappointed but still thought it was very enjoyable, especially her anecdotes between songs. She certainly pulled in a crowd - comparable to the Stones last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyt Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 It was a massive crowd, swollen by day ticket holders, but it was nowhere near as big as The Stones. People weren't standing amongst the tents or as tightly packed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budvar Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 It was a massive crowd, swollen by day ticket holders, but it was nowhere near as big as The Stones. People weren't standing amongst the tents or as tightly packed in. I was in pretty much the same spot as I was for the Stones last year, right at the back of the field across the path in the overspill area (that I was actually surprised to still see there, given I thought it was for the additional crowd for the Stones). Back there it was pretty much as busy as it had been for the Stones, but I'd agree that the crowd was less dense given it was a Sunday crowd full of people sitting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwaves Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 My son with me at the festival and my wife back home watching on tele both thought the same. miming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannypal Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hate to burst the bubble but she was definitely miming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theramm Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 From watching on TV it was obvious she was miming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyds Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'd say the sax solo was "probably" mimed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilton digger Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 My sound engineer son doesn't think she was miming (we were stood by the horseshoe). There was a problem early in the set with the delay stacks, thats why she switched to a hand mike. People at the back couldn't hear. His explanation in crayon for idiots like me: Light travels much faster than sound and so the timing of the delay to the video is crucial. The video will be seen before the sound gets to the watcher if they are any significiant distance away from the source. If there is more than one sound source (second speaker stacks) then both sound and video needs different delays to ensure that everyone hears the same thing at the same time and it matches what their eyes see. A lot of the stages had a video sync problem, lips out of time with sound ether fast or slow. Can't comment on BBC coverage, it was universally poor from what I have seen. They always manage to murder the sound. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemosabe Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 It wasnt just out of sync if you look she made no emphisis upon louder/higher notes pn tv it looked like she wispered them all. As i said earlier it was obvious but it didnt stop a good show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilton digger Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I will bow to your obvious experience and will recommend that the BBC film from your sofa next year for the truly accurate view. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil999 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I will bow to your obvious experience and will recommend that the BBC film from your sofa next year for the truly accurate view. there was deffo something odd going on, dunno if she was using live auto-tune or singing to a backing track..but the singing did not sound live unlike the other singers on stage with her at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifire Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I was in the front pit for Dolly but too far back to properly see. I'll be honest though, the thought did cross my mind, but only for the first couple of songs. The vocal mix was weird at the start, not quite loud enough and all sounding a bit processed. It definitely improved and it was clear soon enough that if the start was mimed, it was only the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilton digger Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 the odd thing for tv watchers is that the BBC engineers have to do a very quick and dirty mix as the show happens. The sound on air is different from live, that is why coverage is universally crap and not reflective of the sound in the field. The show presets are all done by soundcheck for the live desk producing a predicatable result for the people stood in the arena. That is why the sound at a lot of stages after the power pull was a bit iffy, the presets were lost on a lot of the desks and the engineers had to wing it a touch. Old skool engineers with the tape markings by faders are rare and the desks now rely on a different logic set. She may have had an autotune in play but a lot of artists do, I raise you Lilly Allen and Beyonce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoSimon Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I was up the front and thought there might have been some miming going on - but I kind of expected that. After all, it's a 'show', rather than a gig or whatever. Thought it was very good and entertaining, but Blondie on Friday topped it for me - surprised at the voice strength there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I saw her in Leeds the week before the festival and realised she was miming, I was going to post on here but didn't want to spoil it for those who were looking forward to it, (once I suspected it I spent the whole gig trying to catch her out). She's 68 and clearly gets out of breath quite quickly. Having paid a lot of money to see her I initially felt cheated but she puts on a good show and if she physically can't sing live for a whole show I don't suppose there's much alternative other than not performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtourette Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Who cares, people got to take selfies in front of her performing for their facebook/twitter feed and say that they've seen Dolly. Isn't that what it's all about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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