2025 Headliners

[CaledonianGonzo]

Must admit I haven't really felt the urge to put the album back on since the first weekend.  Might give it another bash now.

[Superscally]

53 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Must admit I haven't really felt the urge to put the album back on since the first weekend.  Might give it another bash now.

I've had it on a bit. Corker.

[Avalon_Fields]

I’m really enjoying Wild God, but always viewed him as having a highly selective appeal so not surprised he’s not doing so well on ticket sales, he’ll never be a Glastonbury headliner in my opinion.

[ghostdancer1]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:29 PM, Ben7amin_ said:

 

You might want to Google RHCP and Glastonbury 1993 before making that statement........

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

[nikkic]

2 hours ago, Mardy said:

Yeah, Nick Cave hasn't really burst through to the mainstream. Unlikely to hear his stuff on the radio, not sure his fanbase is growing, if anything maybe contracting slightly (as per Calgon's earlier post). Every time I go on social media, I get adverts for the tour/album.

 

I used to love NC but the last few albums have been relentlessly hard work for me. They're clearly as Molesworth would say 'advanced, forthright, signifficant', but do they ever make me want to rush home from work to put one one as son as I burst through the door? No, they do not. Listening to anything by him from the last 10 years feels a bit like doing your homework.

 

 

This is why he’s melting into obscurity whilst Fred Again, with his joyful beats, continues to thrive. 
 

Some people make music people love, others make music that hurts your head and makes you want to stick a fork into your face for some light relief. 

[incident]

9 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

 

Michael has outright said that it did. And even before that, there was the story that the festival turned them down in 2005 when they offered to step in for Kylie.

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, incident said:

 

Michael has outright said that it did. And even before that, there was the story that the festival turned them down in 2005 when they offered to step in for Kylie.

Still 20 odd years ago - and I genuinely dunno if Michael would have veto power over any booking that Emily would want to make.

 

Which is to say, I assume that the main reason they're not being booked isn't what went down a long time back, but due to how bad it would be.

[Ben7amin_]

16 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

 

Michael Eavis says they are banned from Glastonbury as they straight up did not turn up and to this day have never explained it or apologised  - he repeats this all the time -- it has 100% relevance to why they are not booked.   At his talk on the Acoustic stage in 2019 he said they are not allowed on site even if they get tickets 

Edited September 20, 2024 by Ben7amin_

[CaledonianGonzo]

4 minutes ago, nikkic said:

This is why he’s melting into obscurity whilst Fred Again, with his joyful beats, continues to thrive. 
 

Some people make music people love, others make music that hurts your head and makes you want to stick a fork into your face for some light relief. 

 

Nick Cave melting into a puddle like the Wicked Witch of the West at the end of the Wizard of Oz.

 

Except what caused it wasn't plain old water but instead people's ongoing exposure to his sh*tty politics.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Ben7amin_ said:

 

Michael Eavis says they are banned from Glastonbury as they straight up did not turn up and to this day have never explained it or apologised  - he repeats this all the time -- it has 100% relevance to why they are not booked 

 

Any recent quotes?

[Ben7amin_]

Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Any recent quotes?

Lol I was still editing check the comment you replied to again

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Ben7amin_ said:

Lol I was still editing check the comment you replied to again

 

 

Fair enough.  That's recent enough.  I support Michael in this tbf.

[Ben7amin_]

Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Fair enough.  That's recent enough.  I support Michael in this tbf.

 

me to - They later said Flea was ill in an interview - but its still absolute unprofessional as f**k - that like a school boy skiving then claiming he was off sick after the fact.  

 

There could be a way back in but they would need to make a propper apology to him first. 

[ghostdancer1]

23 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said:

 

Michael Eavis says they are banned from Glastonbury as they straight up did not turn up and to this day have never explained it or apologised  - he repeats this all the time -- it has 100% relevance to why they are not booked.   At his talk on the Acoustic stage in 2019 he said they are not allowed on site even if they get tickets 

That's nice, but Michael hasn't had a role in booking Pyramid acts in a long time.

The only on record quote of his about them (as far as I know) is:

"They didn’t turn up. We’re not very forgiving for bands that don’t turn up."

Edited September 20, 2024 by ghostdancer1

[ghostdancer1]

22 minutes ago, incident said:

 

Michael has outright said that it did. And even before that, there was the story that the festival turned them down in 2005 when they offered to step in for Kylie.

Michael says a lot of things. Loads of them turn out to be demonstrably false.
I doubt the festival turned them down. Especially with a month's notice to find a headliner. Considering they weren't touring in the first half of 2005 (or barely even gigging at all that year), it's almost certainly a completely bollocks story.

[incident]

18 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

That's nice, but Michael hasn't had a role in booking Pyramid acts in a long time.

The only on record quote of his about them (as far as I know) is:

"They didn’t turn up. We’re not very forgiving for bands that don’t turn up."

 

Whether he's directly involved in booking or not, it's unrealistic to think that Emily and Nick would ignore his views when he's got strong negative feelings about a particular act - which he seemingly does in this case.

[Ben7amin_]

14 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

That's nice, but Michael hasn't had a role in booking Pyramid acts in a long time.

The only on record quote of his about them is:

"They didn’t turn up. We’re not very forgiving for bands that don’t turn up."

 

I was physically there Im repeating something i heard him say in response to the segment of the talk - Shout out acts that you want to see headline.    He started this fantastic festival - im sorry aint no way the booking team are gonna disrespect the man who started it by booking them. 

[AVALON.G]

David Bowie has more chance of headlining Glastonbury again  than the Chilli Peppers 

[The Nal]

38 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Any recent quotes?

 

[Skip997]

Brilliant @The Nal

[CaledonianGonzo]

I mean it's amazing.

 

Only topped by the fact that Snow Patrol just got the number one album.

[CaledonianGonzo]

True story:

 

Was just walking through London's famous Soho and I got accosted by a German film crew asking me to identify a band from a photo and if I could I'd win a fiver.

 

They showed me a photo of an absolute shitshow of a band all in their pants and wearing comedy noses and wigs and all florescent pants and clown wigs and so on.

 

To my surprise it wasn't actually Fontaines DC but was in fact the The Red Hot Chilli Peppers - but I got the fiver on my second guess.

[NorthernSoul52]

7 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Yeah - the Hydro looks like it's struggling as well.  Seems the bubble has burst on the wee groundswell he had a few years back and he hasn't quite crossed over to the Dylan / Cohen Mojo boomers market the way some thought he would.  Coupled with turning off a chunk of his OG fanbase with his reactionary politics it's fair to say he's sliding back into the sort of position where even Other Headliner is a bit of a leg up.

He's dug a hole here and there with his opinions, but I honestly didn't think that would seriously impact sales the way it might for other artists. In the case of the Leeds date, it's competing with a Manchester show in close proximity - the two can often canibalise each other.

 

He'll still pull a profit on these gigs, but at the same time, even when he went into arenas in 2017, they weren't necessarily slam-dunk sales outside of London. His Manchester Arena date sold 9,889 on a listed 10,222 capacity - and that was with huge swathes of the upper tier locked off. (A side note, it remains one of the best gigs I've ever witnessed.)

 

When he announced he was doing both, it felt ambitious. But I also do agree that the bubble has burst somewhat compared to the Skeleton Tree-era material and dates.

 

Leeds should likely shift floor and the lower two tiers in the end. That'll be about 8,000 to 8,5000 sales, I think. I can't help feeling that its absence would ensure a Manchester sell-out, but you never know.

[NorthernSoul52]

7 hours ago, Ben7amin_ said:

 

Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news............. (dramatic Pause) 

 

This sentence.    "who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades". 

 

I hate to say this now could include Lady Gaga & Rihanna - Times arrow is relentless 

 

 

 

Rihanna does, doesn't she? I'll revise it to twenty-five years 😁

[NorthernSoul52]

8 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

He's dug a hole here and there with his opinions, but I honestly didn't think that would seriously impact sales the way it might for other artists. In the case of the Leeds date, it's competing with a Manchester show in close proximity - the two can often canibalise each other.

 

He'll still pull a profit on these gigs, but at the same time, even when he went into arenas in 2017, they weren't necessarily slam-dunk sales outside of London. His Manchester Arena date sold 9,889 on a listed 10,222 capacity - and that was with huge swathes of the upper tier locked off. (A side note, it remains one of the best gigs I've ever witnessed.)

 

When he announced he was doing both, it felt ambitious. But I also do agree that the bubble has burst somewhat compared to the Skeleton Tree-era material and dates.

 

Leeds should likely shift floor and the lower two tiers in the end. That'll be about 8,000 to 8,5000 sales, I think. I can't help feeling that its absence would ensure a Manchester sell-out, but you never know.

Turns out that Manchester show - AO Arena, not Co-Op Live - is limited to lower tier only. That'll be about 8,000 capacity too, give or take? (Going off BMTH having an 8,000 capacity for a lower bowl show there back in 2016, when their tour a year after That's the Spirit flopped quite tragically.)