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Headliners 2023


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12 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Absolutely. 

Feels like we're running out of dead cert all-timers though. Out of who's currently active, who would be a sure fire success in the headline slot?

Elton? Yep. Taylor? Absolutely. Who else?

Depending on the criteria for 'currently active', now that theyve bagged Elton it's basically just Fleetwood Mac and AC/DC left. Maybe Queen and Adam Lambert.

Although in the case of the latter I dunno if I could cope with 6 months of the inevitable discourse.

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8 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Depending on the criteria for 'currently active', now that theyve bagged Elton it's basically just Fleetwood Mac and AC/DC left. Maybe Queen and Adam Lambert.

Although in the case of the latter I dunno if I could cope with 6 months of the inevitable discourse.

Anyone who has seen Queen & AL knows they would absolutely slay it.

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6 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Is it just me or are Queen & Adam Lambert not technically Queen any more.

Freddie Mercury was Queen and without him they're just cashing in....????!!!

Totally agree on this.

I am fortunate to have seen the real Queen in 1982.

Anyway it won't happen unless ME stops his support for badger culling.

 

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12 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Absolutely. 

Feels like we're running out of dead cert all-timers though. Out of who's currently active, who would be a sure fire success in the headline slot?

Elton? Yep. Taylor? Absolutely. Who else?

The 1975

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44 minutes ago, 4AssedMonkey said:

"helmed more iconic pop culture moments than most" Much of her fame/infamy is carefully constructed and as her star occasionally wanes, she and her management team do something shocking to attract public attention again (Sex book, Hung Up video etc.)  She's never been at the vanguard of anything, just changes style, direction and song writing team to try and keep up with whatever is selling.  Even the success of her debut was largely on the coat tails of Nile Rogers who at the time was the industry's biggest hitmaking producer.

Is this not.. exactly what plenty of great popstars and artists do, though? Even someone non-musical Andy Warhol had an entire team of people to create his work, repurposed other things that existed, played the media at its own game with stunts and understood where and how to position himself within pop culture – and yet is still respected as one of the greatest who ever lived.

If you don't like any of her tunes that's perfectly valid, but there's still a level of artistry and smart understanding of media and culture to her work that shouldn't be dismissed regardless of if she wrote every single line in her songs. Simply the curation process of turning yourself from nothing, with no industry connections, into the biggest selling female popstar who ever lived is worth respect and most of the pop girls the board loses its shit over playing Glasto like Dua, Doja, Lana, Lizzo, Miley or whoever are all indebted to the foundations she laid and use exactly the same techniques she does: working with producers and writers who've had existing hits, or designers that have certain looks, or directors who've created iconic images.

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47 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Depending on the criteria for 'currently active', now that theyve bagged Elton it's basically just Fleetwood Mac and AC/DC left. Maybe Queen and Adam Lambert.

Although in the case of the latter I dunno if I could cope with 6 months of the inevitable discourse.

Better start a thread now just in case.

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12 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Is this not.. exactly what plenty of great popstars and artists do, though? Even someone non-musical Andy Warhol had an entire team of people to create his work, repurposed other things that existed, played the media at its own game with stunts and understood where and how to position himself within pop culture – and yet is still respected as one of the greatest who ever lived.

If you don't like any of her tunes that's perfectly valid, but there's still a level of artistry and smart understanding of media and culture to her work that shouldn't be dismissed regardless of if she wrote every single line in her songs. Simply the curation process of turning yourself from nothing, with no industry connections, into the biggest selling female popstar who ever lived is worth respect and most of the pop girls the board loses its shit over playing Glasto like Dua, Doja, Lana, Lizzo, Miley or whoever are all indebted to the foundations she laid and use exactly the same techniques she does: working with producers and writers who've had existing hits, or designers that have certain looks, or directors who've created iconic images.

Never said that she was the only one and agree she's a deft exponent of what she does.  Also realise I'm in a huge minority here.  It's just for me, I'd rather listen to/watch someone who has a degree of musical talent than someone who only has a lot of self-promotional talent.  I get that the names you quote above - and many, many more besides - play the fame game also, but at least they can actually sing/write music or lyrics/play instruments etc. in some way shape or form and aren't just hiding behind a huge showy production and a massive backing band or backing track.

Like I said, realise I'm in a minority but it has no appeal for me.

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