charlierc Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 20 hours ago, clarkete said: 'kinel, imagine paying that for a gig if the sound was rubbish, the band had a bad night or (as I had at what was actually one of my favourite gigs ever this year) you spent the evening worrying about that bout of diarrhoea and whether you were gonna sh*t yourself surrounded by thousands of people. I mean, I don't think that's a regular hazard. Saying that, nearly happened to me at a Nothing But Thieves gig in 2016 when I ate too much before the show, so... can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Maurice Mecca said: The other element is what happens to the likes of Twickets, how can they police face value resale for anyone honest enough just to want to sell to another fan when the pricing will be so random. 2 hours ago, maelzoid said: Speaking from personal experience. I had a pair of dynamically priced tickets and tried to sell them on Twickets and they would only list them at the original face value, over a hundred quid less than I had pad for the pair. Well I guess that answers the question, if in a faintly miserable way for the person trying to sell an inflated TM ticket where the Twickets rate means taking a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Muppetmark said: Then isn't the solution to change the on sale time rather than legalised touting? Yup. Or move to a lottery-based system like some acts are. 9 hours ago, stuie said: I still can’t understand how changing who the tout is benefits people who might be working at the time of a ticket sale. Because it means shows take longer to sell out so there are still tickets available when they've finished work. I'm not sure what's difficult about that? Are you suggesting people in that position would previously still be able to get tickets from touts? You're not wrong but it's certainly a lot safer buying officially, even if the cost is the same. 4 hours ago, kingbadger said: The amount of people missing out due to not being online at 9am is infinitesimal compared to the amount of people who can't afford tout prices that is in effect what 'dynamic pricing' is. Except, realistically it's got to be a similar number as the same number of tickets are being eventually sold. Quote Why are you so desperate for people to pay extortionate, gouged prices? Why are you happy for gig tickets to only be affordable for the richest of folk and for the masses to be outpriced? Is this Liz Truss's alt account? I've said a few times I'm not in favour of it. I'm just trying to explain that the current system has its own biases, winners and losers and is far from perfect. Dynamic pricing doesn't feel loads worse to me. Why should whether you get to see a given act or not depend on how quickly you're able to refresh a webpage and click on the tickets? Why should that be the measure of who gets tickets, and not who is going to pay the most? Why do we determine who is the biggest fan by how quick they are on ticketing sites rather than by how much money they save for tickets? Like I say, random lottery works for me. Or acts being less lazy and actually playing enough shows to fulfil demand at a sensible price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkete Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 hours ago, charlierc said: I mean, I don't think that's a regular hazard. Saying that, nearly happened to me at a Nothing But Thieves gig in 2016 when I ate too much before the show, so... can happen. I had to wait for lockdown to finish before I could finally get to see Sparks play at Barrowlands and s*ds law that's when I fell ill. I took more immodium than the recommended dose purely to keep it at bay, which it just about did for the two hours they played and my walk back to the hotel 😥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clasher Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 What's wrong with having a personalised ticket (and a chance of selling that ticket on for FV through official reseller)? Surely it's better, easier, fairer and more accessible to do it this way, than charge an average monthly salary for a ticket that would otherwise cost 75 quid after 5min of ticket frenzy. I mean it's not like a grocery shop worker who is not allowed to take a toilet break at 9am will be able to afford £2000+ blink 182 ticket at 4 pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 8 hours ago, DeanoL said: Yup. Or move to a lottery-based system like some acts are. Because it means shows take longer to sell out so there are still tickets available when they've finished work. I'm not sure what's difficult about that? Are you suggesting people in that position would previously still be able to get tickets from touts? You're not wrong but it's certainly a lot safer buying officially, even if the cost is the same. Except, realistically it's got to be a similar number as the same number of tickets are being eventually sold. I've said a few times I'm not in favour of it. I'm just trying to explain that the current system has its own biases, winners and losers and is far from perfect. Dynamic pricing doesn't feel loads worse to me. Why should whether you get to see a given act or not depend on how quickly you're able to refresh a webpage and click on the tickets? Why should that be the measure of who gets tickets, and not who is going to pay the most? Why do we determine who is the biggest fan by how quick they are on ticketing sites rather than by how much money they save for tickets? Like I say, random lottery works for me. Or acts being less lazy and actually playing enough shows to fulfil demand at a sensible price. Then you want to turn concerts into the hunger games which is stupid. Lottery has been for underplay gigs, not for arenas and stadiums. Even if it turned into that the touts still get tickets and theyve already bypassed any restrictions on resale anyway. Now this is some ignorance if Ive ever seen it. Mark knows theyre getting a big fat bag and just wants to make it seem that they care. They totally have say. They just looked the other way when the guarantee was put in front of them with so many zeros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Suprefan said: Then you want to turn concerts into the hunger games which is stupid. Lottery has been for underplay gigs, not for arenas and stadiums. Even if it turned into that the touts still get tickets and theyve already bypassed any restrictions on resale anyway. Now this is some ignorance if Ive ever seen it. Mark knows theyre getting a big fat bag and just wants to make it seem that they care. They totally have say. They just looked the other way when the guarantee was put in front of them with so many zeros 126 idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarsky Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 Inhaler’s spring tour has a ticket master pre sale on Wednesday. Keen to see what pricing is like. https://www.inhaler.band/tour/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 6:30 AM, Suprefan said: Then you want to turn concerts into the hunger games which is stupid. Lottery has been for underplay gigs, not for arenas and stadiums. Even if it turned into that the touts still get tickets and theyve already bypassed any restrictions on resale anyway. Now this is some ignorance if Ive ever seen it. Mark knows theyre getting a big fat bag and just wants to make it seem that they care. They totally have say. They just looked the other way when the guarantee was put in front of them with so many zeros Hmmm... So he's pondered the question but managed to miss the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, blutarsky said: Inhaler’s spring tour has a ticket master pre sale on Wednesday. Keen to see what pricing is like. https://www.inhaler.band/tour/ £17.50 + fees, in Nottingham at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blutarsky Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, incident said: £17.50 + fees, in Nottingham at least. Where are you seeing that price? Can’t get it up anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 1:45 AM, gfa said: 126 idiots I dont always equate likes as being in agreement. People like things on twitter even if its negative, just more like a book mark type thing for posts/tweets. But Im sure those 126 people got high priced tickets and didnt care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 14 hours ago, blutarsky said: Inhaler’s spring tour has a ticket master pre sale on Wednesday. Keen to see what pricing is like. https://www.inhaler.band/tour/ The one happening right now was £20, been trying to get a ticket to London the past few days (we have 2, need a third!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Low Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 9:39 PM, DeanoL said: Like I say, random lottery works for me. Lottery would be even worse than dynamic pricing. At least it almost feels like I have some control over trying to get tickets at the moment, despite the pricing. Lottery could see me never attending a show ever again based purely on luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppetmark Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, D-Low said: Lottery would be even worse than dynamic pricing. At least it almost feels like I have some control over trying to get tickets at the moment, despite the pricing. Lottery could see me never attending a show ever again based purely on luck. The virtual queue they do at the moment is a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Muppetmark said: The virtual queue they do at the moment is a lottery. Not when you have enough tabs open 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoman Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Been trying for Blink 182 tickets this morning for daughter and her husband, not offered any tickets at regular prices, all at double the official face value, even though they have added additional dates, current cheapest seat is £145 good seats are £234 luckily she has more sense than to pay that, with 2 dates in Manchester I'm sure I'll be able to get tickets at a better price nearer the time. (gig is a year away). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Glasto Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Currently £180 for a regular standing ticket (not the front premium bit) for Blink 182 in Glasgow. Just crazy. I'm suddenly ok with my seated ticket now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tartan_Glasto said: Currently £180 for a regular standing ticket (not the front premium bit) for Blink 182 in Glasgow. Just crazy. I'm suddenly ok with my seated ticket now. Tom Delonge is worth every penny when he yelps his way through the set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7gx34/blink-182-tickets-are-so-expensive-because-ticketmaster-is-a-disastrous-monopoly-and-now-everyone-pays-ticket-broker-prices?utm_medium=social&utm_source=vice_facebook&fbclid=IwAR3YGxcDP-XlTd-hO5UAqFj04Q8zkmBefFJd7QbyKeUrOOAQB0PbyBop9Z0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-the-department-of-justice-to-investigate-ticketmaster?source=direct_link& Campaign to break up Ticketmaster / Live Nation. Just started 2 days ago hopefully gets some traction. Link above is a petition type thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_Glasto Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 Expecting Paramore UK tour to be announced today and I will be sad if Ticketmaster do dynamic pricing for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tartan_Glasto said: Expecting Paramore UK tour to be announced today and I will be sad if Ticketmaster do dynamic pricing for it Aim for the presale - as far as i've seen its never enabled for presales 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 3:09 AM, gfa said: Aim for the presale - as far as i've seen its never enabled for presales 🙂 In the uk maybe, not here. Thats where it starts. But considering they saw some of the insanity on the u.s leg they might hold firm for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, Suprefan said: In the uk maybe, not here. Thats where it starts. But considering they saw some of the insanity on the u.s leg they might hold firm for everything. The person was asking about the UK. Your from America, ticketmaster are shit. we get it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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