Jump to content

Don't Miss a Beat

Join the UK's most passionate festival community. Keep up with the latest conversations, line-up rumours, and music news.

250,000+ Members

Connect with a massive network of fellow festival-goers.

Lively Discussions

Thousands of active topics on music, campsites, and tips.

Hot Rumours & News

Hear about secret sets and lineup drops before anyone else.

Create Free Account
OR
  • Sign Up!

    Join our friendly community of music lovers and be part of the fun 😎

U.S. Presidential Election


FloorFiller

Recommended Posts

15 hours ago, FloorFiller said:

I don’t claim to know much about all of this other than what I see on Reddit/Twitter so maybe I’m way off here, but surely if one wins then the other is likely to win as well? Like, who is gonna vote Dem for one and Rep for the other? Everybody knows what is at stake here.

very likely that that will be the case, but it will possibly be so close that a split is conceivable. It might be like the Florida 2018 senate/governor races where whilst the GOP got up in both, one margin was 10k and one was 33k. Things will run pretty similar but whilst Perdue is an absolute dud of a politician, he continues to hold support. 
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think Dave Wasserman is excellent and my amateur psephology would agree with him  Still lots of vote to come from Atlanta that will get Warnock home. It should get Osoff home but he’s about 1 point behind Warnock in the Atlanta counties so it’s going to run a lot closer

Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

Yeah, the math is favoring Dems so dont sweat the leads right now. Big dumps coming and you know how that has gone so far.

They've said that 171k De Kalb county votes will be coming shortly (maybe in 20 minutes) 

It will roughly break 80-20 dems. That puts Warnock ahead, and Osoff even. You could aggressively call both races now, but this will be the nail in the coffin.

Edited by Gregfc15
spelling
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Gregfc15 said:

They've said that 171k De Kalb county votes will be coming shortly (maybe in 20 minutes) 

It will roughly break 80-20 dems. That puts Warnock ahead, and Osoff even. You could aggressively call both races now, but this will be the nail in the coffin.

Yeah but the 170k is early votes. Kornaki stated earlier theres some 200k in total to go in dekalb and its going to push ossoff and warnock into the leads and theyll stay there. And the NYT needle is still leaning blue.

Edited by Suprefan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

Yeah but the 170k is early votes. Kornaki stated earlier theres some 200k in total to go in dekalb and its going to push ossoff and warnock into the leads and theyll stay there. And the NYT needle is still leaning blue.

Ah cool, didn't realise they were only early votes. We're on the same page here anyway, just a matter of when. Unless something unexpected happens with this dump then even the most risk adverse person should be happy to call the results. 

Needle Link for anyone else. Also a big fan.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guardian are calling it 1-0 too:

 

Warnock wins

Rev Raphael Warnock has defeated senator Kelly Loeffler to become the next Democratic US senator from Georgia, AP announces.

Warnock will become the state’s first Black US senator ever.

Edited by Homer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

So they did it? The Dems have the house, the senate and then presidency? 😲

They need Ossoff to win, but the remaining vote heavily favours him so yes, it looks like The Dems have all three. 

Now they need to push all their stuff through within two years and ignore the republicans. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Latest Activity

    • Is anything said we need to be aware of?
    • Just listened to the new Madonna album, it would be a catastrophe if that isn't played on the pyramid!
    • Restore getting more than Lib Dems is not good.
    • https://x.com/amirtibon/status/2083054470871535853   Some thoughts on the Gaza agreement announced overnight, which despite my reservations and concerns, I hope will be implemented. 1. Donald Trump is trying to collect "wins" and "achievements" ahead of the midterm elections. His party is entering that election at a disadvantage, but because Democrats may choose weak and unpopular candidates in specific states, much like Republicans did in 2022, there's a reason for Trump to at least try achieving a surprising result like the one Biden secured four years ago.   2. The will to provide Trump such a "win" was an important motivation for all sides involved in this agreement: Hamas, Netanyahu, Qatar, Egypt, UAE and Turkey. All of them hope, each for their own reasons, that the transactional president will remember their role in the agreement and the positive media coverage it has generated and will continue to generate. You can like it or not, but that's the nature of diplomacy, especially in the Middle East, under Trump.   3. Netanyahu and his band of liars in the Israeli media (and the last few suckers in the American media still buying his spin) are already trying to oversell the agreement and present it in terms that contradict the Board of Peace statements and briefings. Of course, the October 7 Prime Minister can't just say the truth on this one, which goes something like: "I'm trying to stay on good terms with Trump ahead of an election here in Israel that will determine my personal fate and whether or not I go to jail in 2027."   4. For Hamas, the agreement is a way to buy time and survive, which is basically the organization's overarching goal since October 7. They lost most of their leadership and thousands of their fighters; they will also, I believe, give up some of their weapons to the new Gaza-based Palestinian government, which is a good thing. But at the bottom of all their decisions is a simple calculation: being able to say, "we committed the most deadly and humiliating attack against Israel since the start of the conflict, and survived as a movement and an organization to tell about it."   5. Hamas was able to say that yesterday, before the agreement was signed, and it can also say that today, after the conclusion of the negotiations. So in that regard, the agreement is preferable to the murky post-war reality that preceded it, in which Hamas was recruiting again thousands of young fighters, holding on to all its weapons, and controlling 99% of Gaza's population, making money off people buying fuel and cigarettes. Changing even a part of that terrible reality, by collecting some of the weapons and allowing progress on reconstruction under a non-Hamas government, is better. It means coming to terms with the fact that Israel under this government failed to dismantle Hamas and allowed its survival even before this agreement was signed.   6. Do I think the agreement will be fully implemented over the next 300 days, as I understand the timeline? I'm highly skeptical. But I'm also asking: what are the alternatives? Netanyahu, in his quest for political survival at all costs, ignored David Ben-Gurion's national security strategy of seeking short and decisive wars, which was based on Israel's unique internal and external challenges that make it dangerous for this country to have long wars of attrition. The result is an Israel that is hated, isolated and denounced around the world like never before, and is totally reliant on the support of one man (TRUMP) to avoid crushing international sanctions. Going to war in Gaza once again based on the same promise of "finishing Hamas," which this government failed to achieve after three long years, would have been suicidal unless Trump promised his full backing. And Trump, for good reasons, can't give such a commitment after his bitter experience with Netanyahu in Iran and Lebanon.   7. For me and my family, these are all very personal, not only political, questions. My six-year-old daughter will start school on the Gaza border in exactly one month, as we rebuild our life in the same home where Hamas tried to murder us on October 7. We've learned over the years to be highly skeptical of premature victory announcements and diplomatic celebrations. When these things collapse under the cynical realities of the conflict, most of those announcing them are not around to face the consequences. Still, I don't see a better alternative to the 20-Point Plan that Trump presented last year, at least not with Israel's current position of isolation and exhaustion under this government. So I have some hope that the agreement will succeed, even partially, and deliver a period of quiet. For us on the border, that would be significant after three years of war and trauma. And maybe in the long run, with different Israeli and Palestinian leadership, this will become a first step in a broader positive change for the region.
    • Until they're through the first round of votes there's no point believing any reports about who'll win.
  • Featured Products

  • Hot Topics

  • Latest Tourdates

×
×
  • Create New...