When will this shit end?

[JoeyT]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

 

[efcfanwirral]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I could be wrong but they have spoken about the potential for boosters, haven’t they?

Yeah for now they're saying over 70s. Only a few weeks ago they said no vaccine passports so we know how things creep. Plus AZ haven't made their money yet, I imagine regular boosters is part of the gentleman's agreement part of us supporting them even if the whole population don't need them...

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

3 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I'm terrified of it- the exact thing that happened to these people is what happened to my mum (low platelets which is a serious autoimmune diease,and brain clot, NOT blood clot like a DVT which is how its been widely reported to sound less serious). If I have a genetic predisposition it could be a problem for me, but I guess i have to take it and hope for the best.  But it doesn't seem acceptable to talk about worries around the vaccine - it's a way back to normality for most so i don't think this sort of thing is ever going to make a difference- some may have bad effects but IF it gets back to normal most will see it as acceptable 

Nope - certainly not on here. The thought of people dying of Covid is repulsive but the thought of someone dying from a side effect of vaccine they didn't need to protect them from a virus that is very unlikely to do them serious harm just doesn't register.

Edited March 30, 2021 by RobertProsineckisLighter

[vintagelaureate]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

I could be wrong but they have spoken about the potential for boosters, haven’t they?

My doctor had mentioned to me that the "at risk" groups may be called back for a booster in winter but also added that nothing is confirmed, that was a while back too.

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I'm terrified of it- the exact thing that happened to these people is what happened to my mum (low platelets which is a serious autoimmune diease,and brain clot, NOT blood clot like a DVT which is how its been widely reported to sound less serious). If I have a genetic predisposition it could be a problem for me, but I guess i have to take it and hope for the best.  But it doesn't seem acceptable to talk about worries around the vaccine - it's a way back to normality for most so i don't think this sort of thing is ever going to make a difference- some may have bad effects but IF it gets back to normal most will see it as acceptable 

I think it’s ok to talk about your worries with the vaccines as it’s always good to talk and some people with knowledge might be able to help you with those worries. I’m not saying you are doing this but it’s when worries evolve into something more sinister is when it’s not helpful. 

[Hannibal Schmitt]

49 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

I’m sure the German approach is highly regionalised. Merkel has been threatening to take full control due to the local leaders inaction recently. 

Yes, we call it federalism, which is one reason for the rather slow roll-out – vaccines way has too many intermediate stations.

But also in parts of another region it has been stopped in Germany. I think it was Nordrhein-Westfalen after one death after vaccination there. But most other regions go on I think.

[vintagelaureate]

4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

I'm terrified of it- the exact thing that happened to these people is what happened to my mum (low platelets which is a serious autoimmune diease,and brain clot, NOT blood clot like a DVT which is how its been widely reported to sound less serious). If I have a genetic predisposition it could be a problem for me, but I guess i have to take it and hope for the best.  But it doesn't seem acceptable to talk about worries around the vaccine - it's a way back to normality for most so i don't think this sort of thing is ever going to make a difference- some may have bad effects but IF it gets back to normal most will see it as acceptable 

I understand your worry. If it hadn't been for my daughter, I would have had second thoughts about it for certain due to my own issues.

My friend actually has refused to have it. He has Addisons, which is an autoimmune disease, and his specialist told him to avoid taking it for now as the steroids he is on contain things that will help him anyway - I don't know the full scientific terms! 

 

[incident]

6 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I could be wrong but they have spoken about the potential for boosters, haven’t they?

Not only spoken about it - they've proudly trumpeted the fact that they've signed a contract with CureVac specifically for the purpose of 3rd dose boosters / variant coverage - with 50m doses to (just about) cover the entire adult population.

It's not some grand conspiracy when they're keen to tell you about it.

[Ozanne]

4 minutes ago, incident said:

Not only spoken about it - they've proudly trumpeted the fact that they've signed a contract with CureVac specifically for the purpose of 3rd dose boosters / variant coverage - with 50m doses to (just about) cover the entire adult population.

It's not some grand conspiracy when they're keen to tell you about it.

I thought that was the case, thank you. 

[RobertProsineckisLighter]

6 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Isn't the statistical risk of having an issue from the vaccines side effects lower than the risk of having an issue from COVID. 

Surely anyone with a basic grasps of maths just takes the vaccine given what we currently know ?

Be interesting to see what happens to the maths if we actually knew how many folk had been infected.

[efcfanwirral]

12 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I think it’s ok to talk about your worries with the vaccines as it’s always good to talk and some people with knowledge might be able to help you with those worries. I’m not saying you are doing this but it’s when worries evolve into something more sinister is when it’s not helpful. 

Already asked advice from relevant people. I'm taking a vaccine but may be picky about which. I might be called stupid, anti vaxx, anti science whatever I don't care. Autoimmune runs in the family so I'm making my own decisions - it ultimately doesn't matter as long as I get one as that's what society expects of me.

 

[zero000]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

And then you have this in the Telegraph - no fucking clue comes to mind 🙂   

 

Almost nine in 10 over-80s in England likely to have Covid antibodies

Some 86.0% of people aged 80 and over in private households in England were likely to have tested positive for Covid-19 antibodies in the week to March 14, the ONS said.

The estimate for 75 to 79-year-olds is 88.5%, for 70 to 74-year-olds it is 91.3% and for 65 to 69 year-olds it is 89.0%.

The figures do not include people in hospitals, care homes or other institutional settings.

It takes between two and three weeks after infection or vaccination for the human body to make enough antibodies to fight Covid-19.

 

I’d trust the ONS over a medic who’s openly trying to flog covid antibody tests on his Twitter. 

[Fuzzy Afro]

Cases rising in the states again.

 

Starting to feel like the UK has a very unique luxury of low cases

[Toilet Duck]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

😂

Seriously though, do ye have any spare footballers? 

[Toilet Duck]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

I can’t remember if this was shared yesterday but this is great news for our posters in the States!

 

I read that wrong and thought it said "90% of Americans will live within 5 miles of a place to get shot"...I know they love their guns over there, but I thought it was a bit much! (then I read it again)...

[JoeyT]

 

[Hannibal Schmitt]

A new tourism concept could be offered by Russia:

I wonder if they have so much to give out as Austria was offered today to buy 1 Mio. Sputnik V (but not approved by EMA yet).

[Hannibal Schmitt]

[Hannibal Schmitt]

Russia is considering issuing special visas to foreigners with vaccination requests and then give them a vaccine, the daily German news reports.

[Henrik]

28 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Texas by any chance lol 

Texas and Florida are doing better than the states that fully locked down. California have had one of the toughest lockdowns are currently in a right state. 

Maybe lockdowns don't actually work!? There is currently zero evidence to show that they do.

 

[chris_nre]

33 minutes ago, Toilet Duck said:

😂

Seriously though, do ye have any spare footballers? 

Well, Wes Hoolahan is on fire for the Mighty Cambridge United at the moment!

[JoeyT]

 

[northernringo]

A little more info on Berlin's vaccine decision

 

[Paul ™]

Got text this morning to call and book mine, Nottingham area.

Am 49 with no underlying conditions, but will need to wait till am up there again to get booked in. Unless they open it up for everywhere for the under 50's first depending what comes first.

[Ayrshire Chris]

Great to hear that Sir Lenny Henry is leading the campaign to dispel  vaccine hesitancy amongst the black community.  We have to get the vaccine rolled out to all sections of our community.