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When will this shit end?


Chrisp1986

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46 minutes ago, Copperface said:

This is all fascinating. But we are not in a race against any other country. We're in a race against a fast moving disease. What other countries do or are doing in terms of rates will only become relevant when we start to open up again, and we appreciate that this is a global challenge, not just confined to our islands.

What are you talking about? I didn't mention other countries. I said it would be good to see OUR numbers going up each day.

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16 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

What do you think is driving the numbers there? is it that the new strain is there, people's behaviour, time of year or government policy? (we never get any detailed news about the politics in Ireland, it's like it doesn't exist to the UK media!)

About 25% of the cases are the new variant, the rest are old school SARS-CoV-2. People just mixed too much in the run up to and over Christmas. Much of it was within the rules, but even with the lowest case rate in Europe it was still too high to open up (was fluctuating between 200 and 400 cases per day). It wasn’t even a complete opening, but anecdotally, we usually eat out locally once during the week. Since this began, we’ve been getting take away from the same restaurants we usually eat in so that hopefully they’ll still be there when all this is done. Up til Christmas, they were empty when I went to collect, in the week before Christmas, they were packed (screens between tables, but obviously they don’t work). People visited friends and family over Christmas (so did I, but we essentially isolated for over a week before we spent any time indoors and wore masks as well). Cases in the last week were reporting between 20 and 30 contacts (whereas during lockdown, the average number of contacts was 2-3)...so, I think it was almost entirely down to people mixing indoors (maybe augmented a bit by the new variant). Thankfully, numbers of contacts for positive cases have dropped substantially the last few days and this is generally the earliest indicator that lockdown is working. Hopefully we peak soon. Today we passed the peak number hospitalised in wave 1 (though ICU is still below where it was when we locked down in March)...so we’re still at about a quarter of public ICU capacity and there’s surge capacity in the private hospitals if we need it, but we are back to cancelling elective treatment again, which isn’t good. 

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48 minutes ago, xxialac said:

On a separate note, this is happening right now and they have surrounded the Capitol.

Holy Fucking Shit indeed

 

Even more mental now. 

They've broken into the building. Is like a coup d'etat except with brainless MAGA types instead of militiamen.

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7 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

What are you talking about? I didn't mention other countries. I said it would be good to see OUR numbers going up each day.

You were literally quoting a chart of international vaccinations figures.

https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233675-when-will-this-shit-end/?do=findComment&comment=6066092

 

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2 minutes ago, Losing my hair said:

Exactly; you can rebuild an economy, you can't resurrect dead people.

It sums it up for me perfectly. They are really powerful words. 

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5 minutes ago, Copperface said:

You were literally quoting a chart of international vaccinations figures.

https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topic/233675-when-will-this-shit-end/?do=findComment&comment=6066092

 

Yeah I quoted that cause I was talking about vaccination numbers too. I said going up every day which clearly means UK numbers. They are guaranteed to go up daily whereas I have no idea if we will go up relative to other countries and I don't particularly care. 

It was more a response to the 'Uk haven't updated since December bit too and I was saying that will change on monday.

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4 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Yeah I quoted that cause I was talking about vaccination numbers too. I said going up every day which clearly means UK numbers. They are guaranteed to go up daily whereas I have no idea if we will go up relative to other countries and I don't particularly care. 

It was more a response to the 'Uk haven't updated since December bit too and I was saying that will change on monday.

Clearly.

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2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Are you okay? No idea why you're so upset about me saying I'm looking forward to daily numbers to see our numbers going up.

I think that might have occurred as a result of my comment about us slipping down the list maybe ? 

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13 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

I think that might have occurred as a result of my comment about us slipping down the list maybe ? 

Nah, someone's getting a bit overwrought. Not you. I should be used to vagueness and people jumping down throats by now.

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An NHS hospital doctor has criticised the government’s decision not to bring in a lockdown before Christmas, as she told of “unimaginable” hospital conditions. Speaking on the BBC’s Question Time programme, Dr Rachel Clarke said:

We have ambulances queuing up outside - patients we can’t get them out of the ambulances into hospitals because every single bed in intensive care, in the wards, in A&E is full. Tonight I had messages from a doctor in London to tell me that police cars are delivering critically-ill Covid patients into his hospital in London because there are no ambulances. 

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