mjsell Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Coleman leaves Wales to go to Sunderland. The good news for Welsh fans is that proud Welshman Tony Pulis should be available soon. 25 minutes ago, eFestivals said: right time to go for Coleman, I think. He can only be applauded for how well he did with Wales. I'm sort-of surprised he's taken on the poisoned chalice of S'lund tho. I would have thought he'd have better offers. Straight swap with Pulis would have made sense actually. I am surprised he's taken Sunderland tho, he was being offered mid table prem last season was he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WS_Jack_III Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I thought Newcastle did okay yesterday despite losing 4-1. Defence looked disorganised without Lascelles (someone I've been critical of) although I thought Clark had a good game. Just showed the difference in quality, Pogba was outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Somehow Tony Pulis is still employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) I can't remember a poorer premiership than 8th downwards or is it just because the top teams are so good this year? Edited November 19, 2017 by lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Wasn't this the weekend when this great Spurs team were going to take a big scalp away from home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjsell Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, pink_triangle said: Wasn't this the weekend when this great Spurs team were going to take a big scalp away from home? They beat Madrid at Wembley, that classifies as a big scalp away from home... But yeah I'm not complaining. Thought Arsenal played well though, like was said in most media outlets - it's the sort of performance from Arsenal that makes it all the more frustrating when we don't play like that. Spurs missed Wanyama/Winks in the middle of the park and Toby at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eastynh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 10:30 AM, eFestivals said: Hendo has a lot of faults, but he can see a pass better than most in the Prem. Perhaps count up his assists, to land on the facts? I can't see him on any top lists for passing or assists. In fact his pass completion rate is 80%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, eastynh said: I can't see him on any top lists for passing or assists. In fact his pass completion rate is 80%. does Delph make those same lists? I wasn't claiming anything except that Hendo's ability to see a good attacking pass is better than Delph's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, eFestivals said: does Delph make those same lists? I wasn't claiming anything except that Hendo's ability to see a good attacking pass is better than Delph's. No Delph is playing Left Back so you would not expect him to. He has also only played 7 games so his not have the numbers yet. He does have a far higher pass completion % though. He also has the same number of assists and goals scored even though playing as a defender. Now I got the figures from Sqwaka. On there it is saying that Henderson loses far more tackles than he wins, does not assist or score, has an 80% pass completion rate. That is abysmal for a central midfield player. Now stats do not tell the whole story, I like to go off what I see. Jordan Henderson is not a great midfieldet and would not get in any of the top teams midfields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, eastynh said: does not assist or score That's bollocks (the bit I've bolded). He doesn't score. I mentioned that before you. But also, his passes tend to be the pass before the 'assist', rather than the assist itself - the actual pass that breaks down the opposition defence, to lead to a goal. I've claimed nothing for him except the ability to see that attacking pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, eFestivals said: That's bollocks (the bit I've bolded). He doesn't score. I mentioned that before you. But also, his passes tend to be the pass before the 'assist', rather than the assist itself - the actual pass that breaks down the opposition defence, to lead to a goal. I've claimed nothing for him except the ability to see that attacking pass. His stats are crap. From watching him with my own eyes he looks crap. He would not get in one other top teams midfield. He has one assist and 14 key passes in 10 matches. Thats not good no matter how you try and dress it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 PS: on "key passes", whoscored.com has a score for hendo, and no score at all for delph. I'm guessing 'key passes' is something like the pass before the assist. https://www.whoscored.com/Players/68659/Show/Jordan-Henderson https://www.whoscored.com/Players/27213/Show/Fabian-Delph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, eastynh said: He has one assist and 14 key passes in 10 matches. and delph has...? none at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, eastynh said: He would not get in one other top teams midfield yeah, and fergie didn't want to buy him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 squaka: total chances created: hendo: 14; delph: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, eFestivals said: squaka: total chances created: hendo: 14; delph: 2 Delph is playing left back. Compare him to DeBruyne or Silva who are playing in a similar position. Henderson is poor as a defensive midfielder and poor as an attacking midfielder. He offers absolutely nothing Delph could not do. in fact Delph is more versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, eastynh said: Compare him to DeBruyne or Silva who are playing in a similar position. PMSL Why not compare Delph to them, and then ask yourself why he's playing left back in the same team they're in? FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Someone will be happy now....Pulis is toast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan R Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, eastynh said: Delph is playing left back. Compare him to DeBruyne or Silva who are playing in a similar position. Henderson is poor as a defensive midfielder and poor as an attacking midfielder. He offers absolutely nothing Delph could not do. in fact Delph is more versatile. Neither De Bruyne or Silva are playing defensive mid, the player to compare Hendo to in the City Team would be Fernandinho. And when you look at stats compared other DM's for top clubs (Matic, Kante, Dier) he actually hold up very well in quite a few areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheGayTent said: Someone will be happy now....Pulis is toast Someone's very happy... The style (or lack of) could be overlooked to a degree when we were actually winning matches, we finished top half last season let's not forget. But when the results stop coming there's nothing left for him to fall back on. We've been terrible since March, two wins from twenty three matches is utterly abject. He'd lost the fans and the players from the looks of things, he had to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS_Jack_III Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Pulis is terrible and seems like a nasty bloke too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Gary Megson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, thetime said: Gary Megson A West Brom legend I'll have you know. He's only there until we can find someone good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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