Muse

[Mezhyp1]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

so ... a little more on this "Muse won't be headlining" thing that I heard.

I said I knew nothing about the source, but now I do. And I've got to say that I think it's more unlikely than likely that this source has good info because of where he's placed in things, but that doesn't necessarily mean the info is bad. All sorts of people do end up with the accurate info, and the difficulty is sorting the good from the bad.

And yet ... it's such an oddity to suggest Muse won't be headlining but will be playing that there's something about it which makes me think perhaps there's something to it.

I'm also swayed over it as they were welling to play some kind of non-announced/special guest slot at Bestival last year,(which wasn't headlining I don't think)  if they were going to do it there, why not GF? 

[eFestivals]

6 minutes ago, Mezhyp1 said:

I'm also swayed over it as they were welling to play some kind of non-announced/special guest slot at Bestival last year,(which wasn't headlining I don't think)  if they were going to do it there, why not GF? 

True, I hadn't considered that one as part of things.

What I didn't put in my post above is that while the geezer's place in things suggests he's less likely to have good info than have good info, his place in things also suggests he wouldn't go around saying this without knowing he'd look like a real numptie if it was wrong.  So I don't think he'd be saying it if he thought it was wrong, which means he must believe it, and he must have good reason to believe it .... and his place in things does allow the possibility that he's got very good reasons to believe it (because, perhaps, the band have told him themselves - which isn't impossible from what I know).

So it really is a hard one to judge ... tho I guess I really should come down on the side of remembering I get told all sorts of shite each year, and this is just another part.

[brettredmayne]

Little bit from the muse forum I found, could it be the reason why muse are just subbing is that the band are only playing one album in full.

 

Yep, just to clarify/update a little bit on the original rumour for everyone else:

First off - It seems like the people who originally started the rumour may not have received the info from the crew member first hand, and instead just got a tip-off from whoever actually did speak to the crew. So it's unknown how trustworthy that source is (though it seems they trust whoever it is tbf) and how much these fans are filling in the blanks or putting their own spin on it.

It also seems like the crew member may actually have just heavily hinted that the band will be playing Glastonbury and that they may be doing something special there, with no specific mention of BH&R. The anniversary gig part could just be entirely guesswork from the people who started the rumour, given how close the dates are to the album's birthday.

But this whole thing is a bit unclear atm and I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable on it so I should probably just shut up from now on  Just thought I'd try and clear things up in case people (like me) were getting their hopes up. The BH&R anniversary set could well be a thing, but it looks like the original hint was just about Glasto and the possibility of 'something special'.

[howlin_pete]

I know someone who knows someone (the best start to any story) who works for the BBC orchestra. Apparently they were approached by Muse to play with them over the Glastonbury weekend but were already booked. So it could be that they are playing with an orchestra rather than playing an average album in full

[slash's hat]

I'd be more than happy with a bh&r set as that was the album that brought them to my attention.

very intrigued to see how this info pans out. If there are already leaks it won't be much of a 'secret' set, Libertines only had a short time to keep it under wraps.

[arcade fireman]

Yeah I don't like Muse's later stuff but BH&R is for me the last one before they disappeared up their own arse. Would prefer that to a standard Muse gig. 

[FloorFiller]

yep a BH&R set in full would definitely sway me to go see them, especially if the full orchestra thing is true. although if this talk of them trying to get an orchestra to join them is true then surely that's the 'special thing' rather than an album in full? now to just hope it isn't as a headliner

[efcfanwirral]

29 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

yep a BH&R set in full would definitely sway me to go see them, especially if the full orchestra thing is true. although if this talk of them trying to get an orchestra to join them is true then surely that's the 'special thing' rather than an album in full? now to just hope it isn't as a headliner

 

Also if its an orchestra they'll want to play Blackout, Exogenesis etc I imagine. None of their albums in full really suit an orchestra on their own

[Mash011]

The Globalist with an orchestra followed by Exogenesis in full, fuck me.

I'd still definitely go watch them if they did that. It'd be alright.

[FloorFiller]

yeah to be fair their songs that require a full orchestra aren't exactly the most thrilling/best are they?  i'd rather they did something similar to Metallica's S&M and beefed up some of their better known songs with an orchestra. do what they've been threatening to do for years and just go full ridiculous and overblown

[theouterlimits]

Suppose they did play BH&R in full.

Hardly the hit-heavy setlist we've come to expect from a Muse headline slot. Only 3 big singles. To turn that into a headline slot they'd presumably need to do something of a greatest hits set afterwards, as per Reading&Leeds 2011. What if they didn't bring the hits? Would that then put them at sub level? I'd imagine they wouldn't want to headline if they thought they might get a similar reaction to Springsteen 09 or Gorillaz 11 (people asking where the songs they know are).

But then that begs the question of why they'd do that at Glastonbury rather than their own show for the hardcore fans.

Just thinking out loud anyway.

 

[FloorFiller]

Just now, theouterlimits said:

Suppose they did play BH&R in full.

Hardly the hit-heavy setlist we've come to expect from a Muse headline slot. Only 3 big singles. To turn that into a headline slot they'd presumably need to do something of a greatest hits set afterwards, as per Reading&Leeds 2011. What if they didn't bring the hits? Would that then put them at sub level? I'd imagine they wouldn't want to headline if they thought they might get a similar reaction to Springsteen 09 or Gorillaz 11 (people asking where the songs they know are).

But then that begs the question of why they'd do that at Glastonbury rather than their own show for the hardcore fans.

Just thinking out loud anyway.

 

if they did do BH&R in full then i very much doubt it'd be as part of a headline set, 'cause that kind of thing just doesn't work at Glastonbury (or festivals in general, really) so yeah it'd make sense for them to play lower down the bill with less expectations

i doubt BH&R will be done in full at Glastonbury either way, whether they're headlining or not, because as you say it definitely seems like something better suited for an intimate fan gig. the 'something special' that has been mentioned, if it's a real thing, will definitely be the full orchestra

[dentalplan]

Orchestra will be to replicate the choir of Matts. Maybe they're only looking for people named Matt. We've got a few here.

[eFestivals]

word I've just heard tells me that Muse are not doing R/L.

Which says to me they're definitely doing Glasto (tho I don't have anything to back that up with certainty, I admit).

 

[FloorFiller]

7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

word I've just heard tells me that Muse are not doing R/L.

Which says to me they're definitely doing Glasto (tho I don't have anything to back that up with certainty, I admit).

 

any word on who is doing R/L or just that it ain't Muse?

was hoping them doing R/L would get them out of the picture for Glastonbury. balls. back to the drawing board. really hope this info you've had on them appearing but not headlining is true!

[eFestivals]

17 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

any word on who is doing R/L or just that it ain't Muse?

just that it's not Muse.

[theDandy]

I've said it before and I've just enquired again, that a gentleman who I used to be in a band with is now working for a touring company in London, the company who work alongside Muse. A member of management of this company has just confirmed that he was under impression that Muse would headlining the Pyramid, and that they would be the first band to have headlined a Friday, a Saturday & a Sunday at Glastonbury (first time was a Sunday, second time a Saturday, which would fit in to Muse playing the Friday night slot if it all came together that way). That's what he was told, but who knows? Things might have changed. Maybe it will be Friday // Muse, Saturday // Radiohead or Adele, Sunday // Coldplay.

[jparx]

It would be absolutely mega if Muse played BH&R as part of a sub headline set. Just sayin'. 

[Alan_C]

Are Muse ruled out of T and Bestival?

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, theDandy said:

I've said it before and I've just enquired again, that a gentleman who I used to be in a band with is now working for a touring company in London, the company who work alongside Muse. A member of management of this company has just confirmed that he was under impression that Muse would headlining the Pyramid, and that they would be the first band to have headlined a Friday, a Saturday & a Sunday at Glastonbury (first time was a Sunday, second time a Saturday, which would fit in to Muse playing the Friday night slot if it all came together that way). That's what he was told, but who knows? Things might have changed. Maybe it will be Friday // Muse, Saturday // Radiohead or Adele, Sunday // Coldplay.

If Muse are headlining, I've no doubts they'll be on Friday. It was 100% definitely the Glasto plan to do that at one point.

But because I've had that bit of info (which I've said might well be wrong) that they might not be headlining, and that other factors such as Radiohead's availability could have caused things to be changed, I'm not completely ruling out that bit of info at the moment - and particularly because other snippets seems to suggest it (tho I might be taking a wrong slant from those other snippets, I'll happily admit).

I just don't feel able to rule out the possibility of them playing elsewhere right now.

 

[thewayiam]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

word I've just heard tells me that Muse are not doing R/L.

Which says to me they're definitely doing Glasto (tho I don't have anything to back that up with certainty, I admit).

 

Is it just about feasible that Muse might close Friday with Adele playing under but billed as the headliner (similar to that Rod Stewart thing ages ago). She may prefer the slightly less length set and if it does go wrong she hasn't fucked it up as the last act on. I have to admit though, ZZ Top before isn't exactly keeping the riffs down.

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Is it just about feasible that Muse might close Friday with Adele playing under but billed as the headliner (similar to that Rod Stewart thing ages ago).

Rod was headliner. Rod was billed as headliner.

It was just Michael being Michael, while also believing he had Pink Floyd on the bill when he didn't.

[thewayiam]

2 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Rod was headliner. Rod was billed as headliner.

It was just Michael being Michael, while also believing he had Pink Floyd on the bill when he didn't.

Didn't you say say something about Gilmour playing below him who was thought of as the actual header a while back?

[ericlered]

5 minutes ago, thewayiam said:

Didn't you say say something about Gilmour playing below him who was thought of as the actual header a while back?

Roger Waters played second to last but I don't recall any of the official promotion of the event stating anything other than Rod Stewart headlining. We left after Roger as we had to drive back north that night and frankly, nobody wanted to see Rod the mod.

[thewayiam]

32 minutes ago, ericlered said:

Roger Waters played second to last but I don't recall any of the official promotion of the event stating anything other than Rod Stewart headlining. We left after Roger as we had to drive back north that night and frankly, nobody wanted to see Rod the mod.

Yes it was Rod as the header but it was said, maybe it was just in Michaels head that to him Gilmour was the header to do wanting to believe he had more of PF than he did.