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Dalai Lama self-confirms


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yeah, cos the place was packed all those years ago to hear Bruce Kent, with no jeering. :P

Hey don't ruin my rose tinted inaccurate view of the past - with Glastonbury as some hippie idyll! :lol:

Mind you the great Tony Benn wasn't immune to Glastonbury hecklers.

The capacity when Bruce Kent appeared back then was 35,000 in total, so it was never going to be heaving. Plus despite the CND implications back then everyone there was a bit more activistic in the 80's (I'd like to think) and capable of their own thought.

In his favour many people have never seen the Lama speak, and he's a bit more "humanitarian big international bollocks" and less likely to drone about trident, or be quite so English 70s preacher/speaker type. He may even throw in some insense, and some of that witty banter he does well. Heck he may even want to front a throat singing ensemble - he's a sly one that likes to throw a few surprises that Dali.

I'll be there, and I do reckon there'll be less jeering, and possibly a crowd bigger than 35,000 to see him.

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he's a sly one that likes to throw a few surprises that Dali.

Bloody hell, first reincarnated religious leaders, now deceased painters? Eavis wasn't kidding when he talked about moving attention away from musical headliners. Not sure how his support of Franco will go over with the Green Fields crowd.

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Bloody hell, first reincarnated religious leaders, now deceased painters? Eavis wasn't kidding when he talked about moving attention away from musical headliners. Not sure how his support of Franco will go over with the Green Fields crowd.

no one noticed my earlier 'Dali Llama' misspelling earlier this week yet you choose to now?
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Is it bad that I'm not that arsed about him? A reincarnated soul :unsure: who has controversial views about homosexuality, abortion - his views on retarded kids are about the same as Richard Dawkins who got destroyed last year for it - and a fascination with World Wars. See the Lemmy thread for peoples intolerance of those sorts of people appearing at the festival.

Great views on peace, animals, happiness and the environment, no question about that. He ticks all the leftist boxes which means he'll go down a treat with a 30 minute anti capitalist, pro animal, pro environment speech. Which I may toddle along to.

A zen priest basically? With a what could be seen as controversial religious views. Or am I being Mr Cynical and missing something?

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Is it bad that I'm not that arsed about him? A reincarnated soul :unsure: who has controversial views about homosexuality, abortion - his views on retarded kids are about the same as Richard Dawkins who got destroyed last year for it - and a fascination with World Wars. See the Lemmy thread for peoples intolerance of those sorts of people appearing at the festival.

Great views on peace, animals, happiness and the environment, no question about that. He ticks all the leftist boxes which means he'll go down a treat with a 30 minute anti capitalist, pro animal, pro environment speech. Which I may toddle along to.

A zen priest basically? With a what could be seen as controversial religious views. Or am I being Mr Cynical and missing something?

I don't think you're missing anything, but a major world figure is doing a talk at a festival I will (hopefully) be at, that's got to be worth going along to when the alternative is mooching about my tent nursing a hangover all Sunday morning. I might end up disagreeing with everything he says but I'd rather go along and find out for myself.

Also, just a polite pointer, but I'd really consider using another word than 'retarded.'

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Is it bad that I'm not that arsed about him? A reincarnated soul :unsure: who has controversial views about homosexuality, abortion - his views on retarded kids are about the same as Richard Dawkins who got destroyed last year for it - and a fascination with World Wars. See the Lemmy thread for peoples intolerance of those sorts of people appearing at the festival.

Great views on peace, animals, happiness and the environment, no question about that. He ticks all the leftist boxes which means he'll go down a treat with a 30 minute anti capitalist, pro animal, pro environment speech. Which I may toddle along to.

A zen priest basically? With a what could be seen as controversial religious views. Or am I being Mr Cynical and missing something?

No, the religious stuff is all bollocks, but the overall message will be good. Presumably it's not going to be an hour long discussion on Tibet or the philosophy behind the buddhist religion.

I'd go and see the pope if he was doing it too, despite catholics being a larger shower of c**ts than buddhists.

It's rare we get an easy opportunity to see a world figurehead like this. I wouldnt bother going to see him give a speech in london, but I'm happy to stroll over the pyramid and see what he's got to say for himself.

I'd pick a band I like over him though.

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The more i think about this the more i dislike the notion of giving him or any religious figure centre stage.

organised religion as we continually see is bullshit ((irrespective of whichever sky wizard you choose as your own almighty and however well meaning many of the people invovled with it are.. its divisive nature and the way it has fought against & still stands against (in many cases), just about every social, scientific & medical progression throughout history shouldnt be advertised / endorsed by glastonbury.

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The more i think about this the more i dislike the notion of giving him or any religious figure centre stage.

organised religion as we continually see is bullshit ((irrespective of whichever sky wizard you choose as your own almighty and however well meaning many of the people invovled with it are.. its divisive nature and the way it has fought against & still stands against (in many cases), just about every social, scientific & medical progression throughout history shouldnt be advertised / endorsed by glastonbury.

Rightly or wrongly, there exists a large section of Glastonbury that doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny (the healing fields) or political balance (Leftfield).

Not saying that's a good thing, just that it's nothing new.

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The more i think about this the more i dislike the notion of giving him or any religious figure centre stage.

You don't get up early at Glastonbury on a Sunday and go to the Pyramid do you? You do realise Eavis was born into a good old-fashioned Methodist working-class family?

Have you never noticed Elemental, the Church (Big Ground), Hari Krishnas, the Sunday services in the Pyramid Field, the Jewish tent, the Imagine Peace Tower, Oak Tree Project, the 7th Dayers, the pagan ceremonies, Jesus (Nightcrawler), Jumu'ah (Juma) for Muslims on Fridays, the 12 tribes, that lot that used to be in the acoustic field, the Greenfields, Iona Community, the healing fields, welfare, the fact it's located on the Isle Of Glass?

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pretty sure Buddhism doesnt have a sky wizzard at all & is more about nature, & i guess awareness of how you interact with the universe.. interesting anyway

That's what I thought, but the various versions of organised Buddhism seem to have invented some sort of sky fairies (sorry, Dharma Spirits) who some say you should worship, and others say no you shouldn't, even though they used to. And they all say they are the true way...and we are back to square one.

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The Eavis family, working class? Emily went to a public school (as I assume her siblings did too), just like her privately-educated Daddy. They're landowners and employers -- hardly working class in any book.

Having heard her speak and met her (very briefly), she certainly didn't come across as working class. I'd describe her as someone straight out of the West Country non-conformist moderately-privileged middle class mould (would have voted Liberal once upon a time; now more likely to vote Green).

You don't get up early at Glastonbury on a Sunday and go to the Pyramid do you? You do realise Eavis was born into a good old-fashioned Methodist working-class family?

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The Eavis family, working class? Emily went to a public school (as I assume her siblings did too), just like her privately-educated Daddy. They're landowners and employers -- hardly working class in any book.

Having heard her speak and met her (very briefly), she certainly didn't come across as working class. I'd describe her as someone straight out of the West Country non-conformist moderately-privileged middle class mould (would have voted Liberal once upon a time; now more likely to vote Green).

I meant Michael not Emily - and you mean local methodist church school rather than Eton. His mother was was a headmistress and his father was a preacher.
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Buddhism first got a REAL foothold in China - it's adopted country...or rather the country that adopted it for political purposes - on the back of, and during the time of, and under the rule of, complete murderous psychopaths. And it welcomed and relished it.

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