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3 minutes ago, briddj said:

So it turns out one of my mate got the code but was told he was successful for Dublin which he didn't apply for.

 

And another has two codes to the same email address, like someone else. All quite farcical.

If you fancy sending that Dublin code this way, if he doesn't want it - my preferred venue - got hotel booked! 😉🙏😘

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14 minutes ago, chatty said:

Dunno why anyone's arsed about this. It's clearly one of two things and probably both. 

 

I can't say for sure but the fella looks about as camp as can be and highlights a load of homophobic stuff they said in the 90s so clearly has a personal issue with them, which is fair enough, but makes you a sh*t person to choose to write about them. 

 

Secondly, it's f**king great click bait so brings up the numbers coming through the website as it's been shared all over. You'll see loads of this over the next year, mostly from clueless people who just wanna generate traffic. 

 

Oasis were always pretty divisive so no surprise they still are and will continue to be. 

 

 

 

I like Pricey, and I don't really disagree with his larger argument, but making out that tonnes of Oasis fans didnt also like tunes like Common People or A Design For Life os a bit disingenuous.

 

In fairness, the Graun also published an enthusiastic piece and a more even-handed could be good / could be bobbins one from Petridis.

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Simon Price is a great writer, and he’s on the Chart Music podcast - which is a wonderful podcast, if anyone hasn’t given it a burl - old Melody Maker journos tear into a historic episode of Top Of The Pops and come up with all sorts of conversations about the artists performing, the music scene at the time, and general music journalism - it’s great for forensic detail about bands you’d completely forgotten about.
it sounds much worse than it is - it’s such a bloody great listen, honestly people give it a bash! 
my point though; he’s properly passionate about music, and isn’t fence sitting. I generally hate polemicism these days, cos it’s generally undertaken by those right wing grifter shitbags - but Simon Price is going to hammer the sh*t out of his opinion in order to present a side. Sit with it, or sit against it, but either way have an opinion.
 I like it, even if I don’t agree with great swathes of it - I don’t think Liam is a homophobe at all, he’s just a knobhead. Oasis fans didn’t/dont just listen to one band at the exclusion of everything else. BUT they are almost entirely unsexy, there’s no rock or movability to their music, it doesn’t move feet or swing arses. And that’s a bad thing. 

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6 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

Simon Price is a great writer, and he’s on the Chart Music podcast - which is a wonderful podcast, if anyone hasn’t given it a burl - old Melody Maker journos tear into a historic episode of Top Of The Pops and come up with all sorts of conversations about the artists performing, the music scene at the time, and general music journalism - it’s great for forensic detail about bands you’d completely forgotten about.
it sounds much worse than it is - it’s such a bloody great listen, honestly people give it a bash! 
my point though; he’s properly passionate about music, and isn’t fence sitting. I generally hate polemicism these days, cos it’s generally undertaken by those right wing grifter shitbags - but Simon Price is going to hammer the sh*t out of his opinion in order to present a side. Sit with it, or sit against it, but either way have an opinion.
 I like it, even if I don’t agree with great swathes of it - I don’t think Liam is a homophobe at all, he’s just a knobhead. Oasis fans didn’t/dont just listen to one band at the exclusion of everything else. BUT they are almost entirely unsexy, there’s no rock or movability to their music, it doesn’t move feet or swing arses. And that’s a bad thing. 

 

I dunno - I'd argue you actually can dance to Cigarettes & Alcohol. But that's more to do with Chuck Berry -> Stones -> Bolan heritage of the song than anything else.

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17 hours ago, chatty said:

Haway, if we're honest Oasis have a load of seminal tracks (in the UK at least). 

 

Wonderwall 

Don't Look Back In Anger 

Supersonic 

Cigarettes and Alcohol 

Live Forever 

 

At the very least, will be known by most people in the UK. You put them on in most pubs and you'll get a full pub sing along to it (once beer has flowed for a few hours anyway). 

 

Then you could argue the likes of Rock N Roll Star, Stand By Me, Roll With It are there as well. 

 

Songbird, Dyou Know What I Mean, Slide Away, Half The World Away, The Masterplan, probably a few others. 

 

 

They have a massive backlog of tracks that were hugely popular here and resonate with the culture of this country. 

 

Fair enough, I can understand some people not liking them and on a world level they'd probably struggle to held as in high esteem but just kidding yourself to say they don't have seminal songs. 

 

I'm very willing to be wrong, because I do really like Oasis. But I think that to be "seminal" you have to be innovating and influential. Oasis didn't do anything new, or change the landscape of music. They just followed a well-trodden path, and did their thing well.

 

The definition that pops up on Google is:

 

strongly influencing later developments.
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4 minutes ago, CharlotteB said:

 

I'm very willing to be wrong, because I do really like Oasis. But I think that to be "seminal" you have to be innovating and influential. Oasis didn't do anything new, or change the landscape of music. They just followed a well-trodden path, and did their thing well.

 

The definition that pops up on Google is:

 

strongly influencing later developments.

Sorry, are you suggesting that Oasis have not been a significant influence on later music?  Bonkers. 

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2 minutes ago, Crouchinho76 said:

Sorry, are you suggesting that Oasis have not been a significant influence on later music?  Bonkers. 


In that they spawned lots of clones? Yes. In that their sound pushed music in a new direction? Definitely not. They rehashed 60s guitar music. That’s pretty much it.

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4 minutes ago, Crouchinho76 said:

Sorry, are you suggesting that Oasis have not been a significant influence on later music?  Bonkers. 

 

I think a young band might think they are influenced by Oasis, but with age and wisdom, will come to the realisation that they were influenced by The Beatles.

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My friend got a code (via the "loyal fan" email). He will be getting accessible tickets and wondered if the one code can be used to get a pair of tickets at Wembley and a pair at Cardiff. Only problem is at Wembley it's necessary to book via their own phone line and Cardiff on Ticketmaster website. Not sure if the code will work via two seperate agents or whether it's OK as long as you don't go over the limit of 4 tickets per code. Anyone know?

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No email this afternoon from Oasis, but I did get one from Blur. Anyway I have other priorities, I think - I loved Oasis's first singles but don't get on with Liam's voice and have always struggled to listen to whole albums in one sitting. They're one of only two bands I can think of (Abba being the other) who have a pretty lengthy catalogue of brilliant songs that I think I've heard enough for one lifetime - and often not actually performed by Oasis themselves. I used to spend a fair amount of time around fires with friends and acoustic guitars, and the thing with Oasis is that a lot of their songs are simple enough to be played by pretty much everyone, and for a while they were. Those early singles are still thrilling, though.

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7 minutes ago, Narnia said:

My friend got a code (via the "loyal fan" email). He will be getting accessible tickets and wondered if the one code can be used to get a pair of tickets at Wembley and a pair at Cardiff. Only problem is at Wembley it's necessary to book via their own phone line and Cardiff on Ticketmaster website. Not sure if the code will work via two seperate agents or whether it's OK as long as you don't go over the limit of 4 tickets per code. Anyone know?

The code will very likely to be spent after one purchase, can't remember a presale where that didn't happen to me

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