2024 Headliners

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

1 minute ago, westholtschic said:

Just announced for March at the Cheese and Grain. It’s a sign 😃

It's a sign you need to charge your phone...

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

ghostdancer1 with the receipts

Yeah, that's quite the comprehensive analysis

[westholtschic]

2 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

It's a sign you need to charge your phone...

Lol thank you 

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, westholtschic said:

Just announced for March at the Cheese and Grain. It’s a sign 😃

A sign that you need to sing happy birthday to Victoria 

[assorted]

9 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Yeah, that's quite the comprehensive analysis

It’s not, though. Most of those people I recognize and are not Nazis, except in a “everyone I dislike is a Nazi” kind of way. And most of the “proof” they are Nazis is cherry picking one quote out of context. I don’t want to deep dive back and forth because this is the headliners thread and I’m pretty sure Grimes isn’t headlining Glastonbury but also didn’t want to let this continue without any pushback. 

[westholtschic]

27 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

A sign that you need to sing happy birthday to Victoria 

I did 😂

[discgoesmic]

35 minutes ago, westholtschic said:

Just announced for March at the Cheese and Grain. It’s a sign 😃

This is where it's the real Stevie and he announces his headline slot... We've not had anything that dramatic since the Foo Fighters!

Edited January 18 by discgoesmic

[westholtschic]

1 minute ago, discgoesmic said:

This is where it's the real Stevie and he announces his headline slot... We've not had anything that dramatic since the Foo Fighters!

That would be amazing. Thinking about going but I’m in London the night before for the Chemical Brothers 

Edited January 18 by westholtschic

[CaledonianGonzo]

It clearly won't be, mind.

[discgoesmic]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

It clearly won't be, mind.

Spoil sport.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Stevie's band probably has about 20 folk in it.

[Colorblindjames]

1 hour ago, ghostdancer1 said:

Sure:

 

Here's the tl;dr of the above (with lots of screenshots and links omitted for C&P purposes):

Claire has been actively engaging with a lot of racist individuals and movements recently. These aren’t the type of people who’s racism can be debated. These are card carrying, out and proud racists who are known mainly for their racism and who’s life’s work, or entire personas revolve around racism. That and several racist twitter accounts— accounts that no one could claim to follow accidentally or misinterpret.

Spergler Acolyte

She was following the extremely racist nazi spergler from her main account, but unfollowed after these posts came out (even further evidence she reads r/grimezs) https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/12nb35r/grimes_likes_total_nier_death_genocide_meme/

She is now following him again as of 12/31/23 , after all of this. So she absolutely knows what shes doing and what it means. This is no whoopsie moment. His account is full of rancid misogynistic, pedophilic, and racist tweets.

 

BorealBaron will be lumped in with spergler, since spergler retweets him a lot. Another vile account. Note the swastika on the pro-grimes post. Nice. It would be bad enough to follow these accounts from her friends only account — but shes following them on her main account.

 

Razib Khan

she is friends with racist acedemic razib khan, known for his racism. It’s one thing to be friends with someone, but to post a public photo of it is a whole extra layer of support. She follows him on multiple accounts.

Razib Khan was **personally hired by *Richard Spencer*** (a very famous nazi) and wrote for his publication. Khan also questioned if bonobo apes should be considered as humans, as *he found them more human-like than black people.*

 

Curtis Yarvin:

Curtis Yarvin expresses the belief that white people are genetically endowed with higher IQs than black people. He has suggested race may determine whether individuals are better suited for slavery, and his writing has been interpreted as supportive of the institution of slavery. He promotes the idea that the Earth and eventually Mars should be governed by ai with a “god/ceo” at the helm, his personal pick being Elon Musk. Deeply involved with the dark enlightenment

https://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/why-it-matters-that-an-obscure-programming-conference-is-hosting-mencius-moldbug.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

some more context behind her song “We Appreciate Power” which Grimes claimed is “propaganda” which we all interpretted as being ficiticious. When this threadreader post came out, most would write it off as being a coiincidence or far fetched. But in 2023, she attended and DJ’d his birthday party. Even drawing him a custom happy birthday message.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1108493440382169089.html

 

Palladium Magazine

In December 2022, Grimes attended a holiday fundraising party for the San Francisco political think tank and magazine Palladium, which was founded by the Neo Nazi activist Jonah Bennett. Palladium receives much of its capital investment from Peter Thiel, whose Hereticon “free speech” conservative conference (a haven for hate speech) Grimes had also previously done a private DJ set for, in January 2022. Grimes publicly tweeted about her participation in both Hereticon and the Palladium party. Also, there were many pictures of her at the Palladium party shared by the editors of Palladium and then retweeted by Grimes. These pictures show Grimes together with her own friends who also attended, and some show the magazine’s current editors (not Bennett, but close associates of him, most notably Wolf Tivy) who she frequently interacted with on twitter in the weeks after the party (they were also mutuals). Jonah Bennett himself also appears to have attended the party, despite not being pictured together with Grimes, as he retweeted one of the other Palladium editors’ tweet celebrating the importance of Grimes attending the party and showing how far Palladium has come to gain such a prominent artist’s support. Since the last paragraph was written, she has appeared on the cover of Palladium adding more support to this racist technophilic publication. For more context on Jonah Bennet and his racism here is an entire twitter account dedicated to exposing it: https://twitter.com/jbennettquotes

 

“Technophilic Pronatalism”

(Eugenic White Supremacist Breeding Cult)

https://cne.news/article/2163-three-women-ten-children-how-elon-musk-tries-to-save-the-world

Grimes has also been exploring eugenics. The celebrity eugenics couple from Connecticut, the Collinses, had an extensive interview with Business Insider last year. The piece painted an incredibly disturbing picture of what the Collinses are all about, but it stuck to facts and didn't editorialize, earning the praise of the Collinses themselves, who called the article very accurate. This is relevant to Grimes because she receives a mention in the article-the Collinses tell the journalist that Grimes reached out to their group seeking to get involved in the cause of eugenics. Grimes nor the Collinses did not ever deny that this occurred. It also fits with some of her own public statements supporting "the Mission." The Mission is a cult created by Elon Musk with a mission of breeding a superior race of humans on Mars. Grimes, although no longer involved romantically with Musk, recently said promoting the Mission is now her main purpose in life, describing music as a mere "side quest."

 

 

Dogwhistles and far right talking points:

“If i could be anyone from the past, i would be hitler or stalin”

saying “men and females” vs “men and women” is a 4chan meme and a known far right dog whistle, she is dog whistling in a way that it goes over 99% of the fans heads, but anyone who is a racist, sexist edgelord (or anyone simply aware of their lexicon) will pick up on it immediately. she knows exactly what she is doing. It’s so known there is an entire subreddit dedicated to calling it out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MenAndFemales/comments/12oq8k6/grimes/

"Lebensraum"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimes/comments/10n4esi/on_international_holocaust_remembrance_day/

"Retvrn"

what "retvrn" means to people who know:

It comes from the white supremacist phrase “retvrn to evropa” (lines up with her lyrics too hmm)

 

In Summary, her actual views on race and gender seemingly align perfectly with people in the far right who think women aren't as smart as men, POC aren't as smart as white people, and asian women are superior and sexiest. spergler acolyte being a prime example of the type of people who share these views. Any of these situations on their own is questionable enough, but when combined together squander any reasonable doubt that she is a racist, a bigot, or the modern definition of a “nazi” which in 2024 is just the common slur for anyone who is a white supremacist like Richard Spencer. This is not a list of all of her controversies, just the racist stuff for this specific post.

 

other racists she follows as of 1/2/24 (feel free to add more to the list in comments and i will do my best to update)

u/the_hellenist a racist, fascist account who claire follows and has liked several tweets of. talks about roman empire collapsing because of the jews.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grimezs/comments/zegxqr/grimes_really_does_follow_interesting_people/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1&rdt=43826

bronze age pervert - known racist, entire persona based around racism “i believe in fascism or something worse”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/10/bronze-age-pervert-costin-alamariu/

Andrew Tate - a sex trafficker and famous misogynist piece of sh*t. You all already know. Yes, she follows him.

Aella - controversial misogynist who organizes orgies for the elite tech scene in austin where women have to sign their right to consent away to participate. Anyone who practices kink or BDSM knows that consent is the foundation of sex that isn’t assault. Claire is good friends and engages via her private account often. Aella also posts a lot of insanely creepy polls about children and sex that many consider to be pedophilic in nature.

Alex Leaud - a fascist, racist, stalker doxxed a woman from the grimezs sub on his grimezshate twitter account, tried to hack into user accounts, was allowed to follow her friends only account, harassed many members of r/grimezs, got banned from reddit for harassment and doxxing, used (claires fans/ex-fans) sexual assault experiences against them. He has been openly racist, sexist transphobic, https://www.reddit.com/r/grimezs/s/LV1VJXTLEH

a lot of her other friends like Lan Dao, Aella, Liv Boeree post a lot of red-pilled content such as opposing feminism, LGBTQ rights, black struggles, endorsing patriarchy, a total inversion of what Grimes used to stand for. This also explains tweets like this

Further Reading for those interested:

An incomplete list of Claires track record as a compulsive liar:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grimezs/s/OXtizOruHs

Thanks but I thought we were talking about Dua Lipa. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Dua Lipa seems like a good sort.... at least when not talking about Greater Albania.

[goonerben]

54 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Dua Lipa seems like a good sort.... at least when not talking about Greater Albania.

Have heard from multiple people separately, that Dua Lipa is one of the nicest, most unassuming and least diva-ish people in the business.  Agreed, I doubt her views on Greater Albania would be popular in Belgrade, but there we go...

[CaledonianGonzo]

Bigger balls than f**ko off of Sleaford Mods too

[northernangel]

2 hours ago, duke88 said:

Because the football season will have started, so stadiums won't be free.

She could be doing stadiums that don't require weekly events.

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

1 hour ago, assorted said:

It’s not, though. Most of those people I recognize and are not Nazis, except in a “everyone I dislike is a Nazi” kind of way. And most of the “proof” they are Nazis is cherry picking one quote out of context. I don’t want to deep dive back and forth because this is the headliners thread and I’m pretty sure Grimes isn’t headlining Glastonbury but also didn’t want to let this continue without any pushback. 

Fair point

[Bike_Like_A_Mum]

I don't know a single person who would buy a ticket to see Dua live...

Weird because it's not because they don't like her music. Far from it. Just not a must-see live kind of act...

It could be just anecdotal but I've also noticed that on here, although nobody is complaining about her being the potential booking (again, far from it...most people think its a pretty good booking), but I've also noticed when people are stating who they'd see off the current rumours, Dua more often than not isn't on the list. 

Good luck to her trying to sell stadiums! She probably really could do with some Glasto publicity to convince people to be honest. But i don't really know anything about these matters lol. Is it just me? I'll almost certainly be elsewhere when she's on...even though I like her 🤷🏼‍♀️

Edited January 18 by Bike_Like_A_Mum

[CaledonianGonzo]

That's just the demographics on this forum.

She won't draw an Elton-sized crowd, but she'll still have a busy field a la e.g. Billie Eilish or Stormzy.

[gigpusher]

10 minutes ago, Bike_Like_A_Mum said:

I don't know a single person who would buy a ticket to see Dua live...

Weird because it's not because they don't like her music. Far from it. Just not a must-see live kind of act...

It could be just anecdotal but I've also noticed that on here, although nobody is complaining about her being the potential booking (again, far from it...most people think its a pretty good booking), but I've also noticed when people are stating who they'd see off the current rumours, Dua more often than not isn't on the list. 

Good luck to her trying to sell stadiums! She probably really could do with some Glasto publicity to convince people to be honest. But i don't really know anything about these matters lol. Is it just me? I'll almost certainly be elsewhere when she's on...even though I like her 🤷🏼‍♀️

 

7 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

That's just the demographics on this forum.

She won't draw an Elton-sized crowd, but she'll still have a busy field a la e.g. Billie Eilish or Stormzy.

The demographics on this forum definitely. I actually think with the cost of ticket prices for these types of acts that it might make them busier than normal at festivals like Glastonbury. I'd never pay the prices to see Dua Lipa or O Rod but would happily watch either at Glastonbury (depending on who they were up against) The fact that they would be likely to be completely rammed would actually be more of an incentive a well.

[jadedj]

12 minutes ago, Bike_Like_A_Mum said:

I don't know a single person who would buy a ticket to see Dua live...

Weird because it's not because they don't like her music. Far from it. Just not a must-see live kind of act..

Honestly I agree with this. I really like her but I'd never actually pay to go see her (especially with the prices of gigs these days), but I'd happily see her at a festival. Although if given the choice I'd still switch her out for Miley Cyrus or Olivia Rodrigo. 

[CaledonianGonzo]

I think a few folk from on here went to the Future Nostalgia tour and had a fine old time. Plus the album itself was a big favourite during the lockdown years.

[Kalopsia]

10 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

I think a few folk from on here went to the Future Nostalgia tour and had a fine old time. Plus the album itself was a big favourite during the lockdown years.

Yea I popped it on the other day for the first time in a couple of years, still really enjoy it. Wasn't much of a fan before, but that album has some great songs.

[stanh]

21 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

I think a few folk from on here went to the Future Nostalgia tour and had a fine old time. Plus the album itself was a big favourite during the lockdown years.

I saw her twice on the Future Nostalgia tour and she smashed it both times, really great show and will be well up for buying tickets to her next tour, plus seeing her at Glasto, clash dependant. 

[Gnomicide]

Woodsies was rammed for her set there, I'm sure she'll bet a big Pyramid crowd.