Matt86 Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Karlos12345 said: You got a link to that interview? Would be much appreciated. "Mais le second week-end, dévoilé ce jeudi, est plus fort. Outre Metallica et Scorpions, le Hellfest accueillera pour la première fois Nine Inch Nails pour une date unique en Europe, accompagné des légendes de la musique industrielle Ministry et Skinny Puppy, mais aussi Guns N’Roses, Alice Cooper, Nightwish, Whitesnake. Seuls trois groupes joueront sur les deux week-ends, Megadeth, Killing Joke et Airbourne." I can't find the very first interview I saw, when he said it. But you can have the news on many websites actually : https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/en-2022-le-hellfest-durera-7-jours-et-accueillera-metallica-17-06-2021-UV5B5APCONCKZOG77HK7Z4EBUM.php https://www.bfmtv.com/people/musique/hellfest-metallica-et-une-double-edition-en-2022_AD-202106170539.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 Interesting to read, though I wonder whether all these websites are just quoting one source that may or may not be accurate. Note that in the interview with the Hellfest boss, it's not attributed to him directly that NIN is an exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot said: Interesting to read, though I wonder whether all these websites are just quoting one source that may or may not be accurate. Note that in the interview with the Hellfest boss, it's not attributed to him directly that NIN is an exclusive. As stated before, this is almost definitely taken from a press release sent to media partners. Really no sense in questioning this. And a festival like Hellfest will insist on the exclusivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r55N Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Quadrophobia said: As stated before, this is almost definitely taken from a press release sent to media partners. Really no sense in questioning this. And a festival like Hellfest will insist on the exclusivity. I fully understand NIN for going Hellfest exclusive. They've always had problems when touring festivals in Europe... Reading didn't allow for all their production on stage, Pukkelpop and some other fests placed them very strange in the line up (subbing for Eminem comes to mind). Last time NIN were in Europe, the shows were very stripped down in terms of production and I believe this is the reason they played few festivals... including Mad Cool. If Hellfest offer them to curate the stage line up and agree to all production requirements, it's just a matter of an additional fee for Trent & Atticus to happily discard all other festivals in Europe. I still believe they'll have some dedicated headline shows in 2022 though. Not sure from where the 2023 tour rumor is coming from. Still we will not have info for any of those before the Hellfest tickets go on sale. Edited June 21, 2021 by r55N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, r55N said: I fully understand NIN for going Hellfest exclusive. They've always had problems when touring festivals in Europe... Reading didn't allow for all their production on stage, Pukkelpop and some other fests placed them very strange in the line up (subbing for Eminem comes to head). Last time NIN were in Europe, the shows were very stripped down in terms of production and I believe this is the reason they played few festivals... including Mad Cool. If Hellfest offer them to curate the stage line up and agree to all production requirements, it's just a matter of an additional fee for Trent & Atticus to happily discard all other festivals in Europe. I still believe they'll have some dedicated headline shows in 2022 though. Not sure from where the 2023 tour rumor is coming from. Still we will not have info for any of those before the Hellfest tickets go on sale. NIN were a strong rumour for the inaugural edition of Primavera L.A., which is probably not happening in 2021 so I guess they are playing that in 2022 and Europe in 2023. The 2023 is courtesy of Ken19 who just knows things so what he says is mostly reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthedream Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Foo Fighters will play a Headline Show with Liam Gallagher in Madrid, which rules them out for Mad Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken19 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 hours ago, r55N said: I fully understand NIN for going Hellfest exclusive. They've always had problems when touring festivals in Europe... Reading didn't allow for all their production on stage, Pukkelpop and some other fests placed them very strange in the line up (subbing for Eminem comes to mind). Last time NIN were in Europe, the shows were very stripped down in terms of production and I believe this is the reason they played few festivals... including Mad Cool. If Hellfest offer them to curate the stage line up and agree to all production requirements, it's just a matter of an additional fee for Trent & Atticus to happily discard all other festivals in Europe. I still believe they'll have some dedicated headline shows in 2022 though. Not sure from where the 2023 tour rumor is coming from. Still we will not have info for any of those before the Hellfest tickets go on sale. In the past, the agent of NIN was very focused on the highest spot possible on the line up. So Pukkelpop was a huge miscasting (in 2007 on the opposite site, that was the perfect night, first NIN, Tool after them), but because of 2007 i think they give it a go. Now, they know better. NIN in the Werchter Barn was a perfect example. Never seem them so satisfied until then after a show backstage. And i have seen Trent a couple times angry already :-) (who doesn't). Most of the bands are changing their minds (the experience, younger bands with succes are more difficult to handle). Not the only thing that matters is the highest spot possible, but the best spot on the line up, where they can show themselves. An artist has the last word on which stage they want to play. And it is a common thing that we have to tell them, that a tenth stage is better for them (and yes, most of the time they, if they are convinced about a tentshow, want the barn, because it is the biggest tenth, and again convincing). Or a closing show on The Slope. Interpol Werchter 2007 was a nice example. They desperately wanted to play the main stage but never checked the info Werchter gave them (you are playing on the Metallica day, with some rock acts). Ow, that is a lot of metalbands? And they were not happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthouse Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ken19 said: In the past, the agent of NIN was very focused on the highest spot possible on the line up. So Pukkelpop was a huge miscasting (in 2007 on the opposite site, that was the perfect night, first NIN, Tool after them), but because of 2007 i think they give it a go. Now, they know better. NIN in the Werchter Barn was a perfect example. Never seem them so satisfied until then after a show backstage. And i have seen Trent a couple times angry already :-) (who doesn't). Most of the bands are changing their minds (the experience, younger bands with succes are more difficult to handle). Not the only thing that matters is the highest spot possible, but the best spot on the line up, where they can show themselves. An artist has the last word on which stage they want to play. And it is a common thing that we have to tell them, that a tenth stage is better for them (and yes, most of the time they, if they are convinced about a tentshow, want the barn, because it is the biggest tenth, and again convincing). Or a closing show on The Slope. Interpol Werchter 2007 was a nice example. They desperately wanted to play the main stage but never checked the info Werchter gave them (you are playing on the Metallica day, with some rock acts). Ow, that is a lot of metalbands? And they were not happy. Werchter 2009 springs to mind too, with NiN playing before Metallica. It was horrible. Not because of NiN, who were actually very passionate (Trent sweating like an ox), but my god was that Metallica crowd tame and indifferent. I can remember it actually made me angry. And in this case it was 2 big 'harder' bands following each other. Such a shame. Edited June 21, 2021 by lighthouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken19 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, lighthouse said: Werchter 2009 springs to mind too, with NiN playing before Metallica. It was horrible. Not because of NiN, who were actually very passionate (Trent sweating like an ox), but my god was that Metallica crowd tame and indifferent. I can remember it actually made me angry. And in this case it was 2 big 'harder' bands following each other. Such a shame. Playing before Metallica is always a special situation. In 2005 it worked perfectly fine with NIN before Rammstein. Curious who is going to play before Metallica this year. Not every band is waiting for this opportunity 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 I saw NIN at Rock am ring 2014 right after Queens of the Stone Age on the second stage quite late at night. Pretty good gig, but the audience was just lame. Had the impression they weren't really happy with the turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r55N Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: I saw NIN at Rock am ring 2014 right after Queens of the Stone Age on the second stage quite late at night. Pretty good gig, but the audience was just lame. Had the impression they weren't really happy with the turnout. I choose Rock im Park this year and it was absolutely the same. I was just coming from 4 back-to-back arena shows in the UK and the difference in quality and band enjoyment was obvious. In 2014 they had only two festivals I believe... RaR/RiP and Primavera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Despite still being relatively big NIN haven’t really transcended the current music scene very much and so I feel like they’re often shrugged off at major festivals with younger crowds. Seems like Trent being notably pissed off during their big festival slots, especially if they’re on before somebody and the crowd is waiting for them, is a fairly common thing. Think they’re a band who fair much better at slightly smaller and/or more indie/alt leaning festivals rather than ones that have stuff like RHCP playing right after them. Which is a shame, because they’re such a good live band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 5 hours ago, r55N said: Last time NIN were in Europe, the shows were very stripped down in terms of production and I believe this is the reason they played few festivals... including Mad Cool. The entire 2017/2018 tour was stripped down, even in the USA. Was a deliberate artistic choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullabaloo92 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Ken19 said: Playing before Metallica is always a special situation. In 2005 it worked perfectly fine with NIN before Rammstein. Curious who is going to play before Metallica this year. Not every band is waiting for this opportunity 😅 @Ken19Can you tell us something about the Volbeat situation in 2022? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukecork Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 10:05 PM, Hullabaloo92 said: @Ken19Can you tell us something about the Volbeat situation in 2022? The situation in 2022 with Volbeat is that they're still terrible beyond belief. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wro_lap Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Sorry if this has been covered already, but I take it Mad Cool is completely sold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinthedream Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Day Tickets and VIP Tickets are still available. 4 and 3 Day Tickets are sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFD Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 ....but there are bound to be people taking refunds when the window opens and they will end up doing a release of 3 and 4 day tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wro_lap Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, WFD said: ....but there are bound to be people taking refunds when the window opens and they will end up doing a release of 3 and 4 day tickets. Oh wow, they’ve not even opened up the refund window yet? That’s pretty wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFD Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, wro_lap said: Oh wow, they’ve not even opened up the refund window yet? That’s pretty wild. It opens 7 July for two weeks, so expect them to do a limited release shortly after 21 July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 5:28 AM, Quadrophobia said: NIN were a strong rumour for the inaugural edition of Primavera L.A., which is probably not happening in 2021 so I guess they are playing that in 2022 and Europe in 2023. The 2023 is courtesy of Ken19 who just knows things so what he says is mostly reliable. I think the strong rumor for primavera la came from the fact that NIN sold the tour merch that had the dates on it which included the festival. And I mean, trent said it himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Suprefan said: I think the strong rumor for primavera la came from the fact that NIN sold the tour merch that had the dates on it which included the festival. And I mean, trent said it himself Yeah so thats even more than a "strong rumour" then 😄 I'd say its very likely they do PS LA in 2022 and PS BCN (possibly Porto too) in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birchtree29 Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Mumford&Sons banjo player left the band. I guess that was the reason they quit touring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, birchtree29 said: Mumford&Sons banjo player left the band. I guess that was the reason they quit touring Well to be fair, they could just loop a sample and noone would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulmcm1998 Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, birchtree29 said: Mumford&Sons banjo player left the band. I guess that was the reason they quit touring That's a blessing in disguise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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