news & politics:discussion

[Ozanne]

14 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

For all Owen Jones moans about RLB I have not heard him make any intellectual argument why labour would be in a better position if RLB had won the leadership contest.

In my view if this had happened labour would be arguing about Jez, arguing about Middle East politics. Burgon and Sultana would be in the shadow cabinet and labour would be behind in the polls.

Some on the left just like to moan and would rather a Tory government than someone they didn’t support in the leadership election it seems. 

[Ozanne]

 

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

 

Seems obvious now there will be a VONC

[Ozanne]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

Seems obvious now there will be a VONC

Yeah, next week seems likely. 

[steviewevie]

7 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Yeah, next week seems likely. 

he needs a big distraction quick smart. A war with France or something.

[Ozanne]

36 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

he needs a big distraction quick smart. A war with France or something.

General election mate

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

General election mate

polling day 23rd June.

[Ozanne]

9 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

polling day 23rd June.

Too late for that now, thankfully. 

[steviewevie]

Suzanne Moore interviews Dominic Cummings.

https://unherd.com/2022/05/dominic-cummings-i-dont-like-parties/

[Ozanne]

I wonder if that constituent is actually real. 

[Kurosagi]

Busy long weekend on the phones ahead for Johnson as he tries to turn on the smarm:

 

[squirrelarmy]

29 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I wonder if that constituent is actually real

Sounds like something my ex used to say about him so could be. 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

For all Owen Jones moans about RLB I have not heard him make any intellectual argument why labour would be in a better position if RLB had won the leadership contest.

 

whatever happened to RBL, turns out only jez has any interest in her.

3 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

In my view if this had happened labour would be arguing about Jez, arguing about Middle East politics. Burgon and Sultana would be in the shadow cabinet and labour would be behind in the polls.

 

[steviewevie]

Makes you proud

 

[steviewevie]

Who's going first, Starmer or Johnson?

BET NOW!

 

[Ozanne]

18 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

Who's going first, Starmer or Johnson?

BET NOW!

 

Last week it was reported that it was unlikely Starmer would be fined for the event from someone that knows the person in Durham Police. 

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Last week it was reported that it was unlikely Starmer would be fined for the event from someone that knows the person in Durham Police. 

By some bloke who writes in The Mail.

[Ozanne]

Just now, steviewevie said:

By some bloke who writes in The Mail.

Yeah that’s it.

[Ozanne]

 

[kaosmark2]

11 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Burnham is actually saying a lot of good stuff, radical changes. I guess that is part of the luxury of being outside the plp, he can be braver, and maybe what he's learnt along the way whilst Gtr Manc mayor. He also is popular, which is a rare thing these days, and seems to be the one potential labour leader who could actually unite the different sides of the labour party. Famous last words.

A lot of people here have been praising Burnham. I find this bizarre. I've always seen him as a flip-flopping populist who says what his audience wants to hear. No consistency in his messaging, and a lot of pandering to his audience. It's why I put him last in my leadership choice in 2015 (based on how things have gone since, I'd now put Corbyn last instead of 2nd).

Edited May 31, 2022 by kaosmark2

[Ryan1984]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

 

Yeah, but does this actually mean anything?

[Neil]

10 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

A lot of people here have been praising Burnham. I find this bizarre. I've always seen him as a flip-flopping populist who says what his audience wants to hear. No consistency in his messaging, and a lot of pandering to his audience. It's why I put him last in my leadership choice in 2015 (based on how things have gone since, I'd now put Corbyn last instead of 2nd).

There's nothing clever from burnham with saying Westminster needs reform, everyone knows it. what would be clever would be laying out a fully joined up new system, that people could support as the replacement system.

[Ozanne]

There’s always something with these loons. 

[steviewevie]

58 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

A lot of people here have been praising Burnham. I find this bizarre. I've always seen him as a flip-flopping populist who says what his audience wants to hear. No consistency in his messaging, and a lot of pandering to his audience. It's why I put him last in my leadership choice in 2015 (based on how things have gone since, I'd now put Corbyn last instead of 2nd).

sacrilege

[pink_triangle]

59 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

A lot of people here have been praising Burnham. I find this bizarre. I've always seen him as a flip-flopping populist who says what his audience wants to hear. No consistency in his messaging, and a lot of pandering to his audience. It's why I put him last in my leadership choice in 2015 (based on how things have gone since, I'd now put Corbyn last instead of 2nd).

In many ways Burnham is the labour version of Boris. Will say anything if he thinks it will benefit himself. Of course that can work as Boris has shown.