news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

70% turnout in Batley and Spen. Not sure who that's good for....

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

70% turnout in Batley and Spen. Not sure who that's good for....

I think that’s a better sign for Labour. 

[steviewevie]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[mattiloy]

14 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

70% turnout in Batley and Spen. Not sure who that's good for....

big turnout that! seems like the campaigning has been pretty intense, I wonder how much labour have spent.

[fraybentos1]

Will eat my hat if turnout is 70 percent at a by election

[guypjfreak]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Who'd of thought it trump has been cheating his taxes.

Trump..... He lives in a fantasy world.. lloooolll 

[eFestivals]

5 hours ago, steviewevie said:

Some labour people optimistic about Batley and Spen...result expected about 5am!

No result yet it's a centralist plot to steal the election for starmer.

[Fuzzy Afro]

Labour hold by 323

[zahidf]

7 minutes ago, Fuzzy Afro said:

Labour hold by 323

Very happy with that result. 

[philipsteak]

7 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Will eat my hat if turnout is 70 percent at a by election

Your hat is safe. 48%

[Guest]

Good result for Labour all things considered. It was still very tight which will hopefully push Starmer into a bit more action as we go into the Autumn. 

[Guest]

So much for the impressive Tory vote, they were supposed to do really well but lost votes still. 

[steviewevie]

Woah, close. Great news for labour though, would have been all doom and gloom and starmer out this morning if they'd lost. Pleased for Leadbetter and her team after what seems like a grim few weeks campaigning. Also, shows shouldn't believe everything I read in the internet...70% etc

[Guest]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

Woah, close. Great news for labour though, would have been all doom and gloom and starmer out this morning if they'd lost. Pleased for Leadbetter and her team after what seems like a grim few weeks campaigning. Also, shows shouldn't believe everything I read in the internet...70% etc

Kim Leadbetter did very well in the face of such horrible actions on the street during the campaign, hopefully that type of abuse on the campaign trail goes away.

[Ryan1984]

52 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

So much for the impressive Tory vote, they were supposed to do really well but lost votes still. 

The Tory spokeslady on the news this morning was not impressed.

[topmarksbri]

I know we have a wide range of Labour opinions on here, but hope we can all celebrate the tories and Galloway taking a loss at least! 

[steviewevie]

Lewis Goodall thread on what this all means...

 

[steviewevie]

Maybe replacing Rayner as head of campaign thingy was a good idea after all.

[fraybentos1]

2 hours ago, philipsteak said:

Your hat is safe. 48%

Twitter really does come out with some whacky stuff sometimes haha 

[mattiloy]

Never seen such a bad result celebrated as such a resounding, vindicating victory.

The lowest % for Labour ever in the constituency and by a wide margin. If Labour can expect a -7.4% swing across the country from 2019, its the end.

For context Labour lost 9% in hartlepool. You can attribute the 1.6% difference to the better candidate (the sister of the formerly murdered MP no less) and the increase in Labour spend.

Glad for Kim Leadbetter, but Starmer limps on. In the long run, is that a good thing? I don’t think so.

[fraybentos1]

4 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Never seen such a bad result celebrated as such a resounding, vindicating victory.

The lowest % for Labour ever in the constituency and by a wide margin. If Labour can expect a -7.4% swing across the country from 2019, its the end.

For context Labour lost 9% in hartlepool. You can attribute the 1.6% difference to the better candidate (the sister of the formerly murdered MP no less) and the increase in Labour spend.

Glad for Kim Leadbetter, but Starmer limps on. In the long run, is that a good thing? I don’t think so.

Just take the L mate...

Also ludicrous to extrapolate the -7.4 percent across the country fs it’s a by election and george Galloway got over 20 percent. 
 

Would your logic apply to the Lib Dem win 2 weeks ago in C&A ? No of course not cause by your logic it would mean the tories losing 20 percent of their vote. Ludicrous way to look at things.

Edited July 2, 2021 by fraybentos1

[zahidf]

6 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Never seen such a bad result celebrated as such a resounding, vindicating victory.

The lowest % for Labour ever in the constituency and by a wide margin. If Labour can expect a -7.4% swing across the country from 2019, its the end.

For context Labour lost 9% in hartlepool. You can attribute the 1.6% difference to the better candidate (the sister of the formerly murdered MP no less) and the increase in Labour spend.

Glad for Kim Leadbetter, but Starmer limps on. In the long run, is that a good thing? I don’t think so.

ok George Galloway

[steviewevie]

16 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Never seen such a bad result celebrated as such a resounding, vindicating victory.

The lowest % for Labour ever in the constituency and by a wide margin. If Labour can expect a -7.4% swing across the country from 2019, its the end.

For context Labour lost 9% in hartlepool. You can attribute the 1.6% difference to the better candidate (the sister of the formerly murdered MP no less) and the increase in Labour spend.

Glad for Kim Leadbetter, but Starmer limps on. In the long run, is that a good thing? I don’t think so.

Much better than expected just a few days ago I heard that labour were genuinely worried would come 3rd. Says a lot where people on left were hoping labour would lose so starmer would get kicked out, but who do they replace him with, Rayner I guess? Anyway, narrow win gives Starmer a bit more breathing space, he is building a new team around him and maybe he can use result to build on after the summer.

Edited July 2, 2021 by steviewevie

[zahidf]

Some B&S thoughts:

1. Brilliant Labour expectation management.

2. Superb Labour GOTV operation.

3. Both suggest a significant uptick in party management after Starmer's recent backroom reshuffle.

4. Galloway got a lot more than Muslim votes.

5. By rooting so openly for Galloway, the far-left has done itself a great deal of harm inside Labour. He really is a repulsive twat. 

6. Hubris is always the Tory Achilles heal. It hurt them big time here. The Tory candidate was basically hiding the whole time.

7. The LibDem vote share was down only 1.3%. Compare and contrast with the fall in the Labour vote share in Chesham & Amersham.

8. We need to stop talking about politics as normal. We don't know what normal is anymore.

9. Above all else, the significance of this is that Labour did not lose and the headlines wont be about Starmer's leadership for the next few month.