news & politics:discussion

[blutarsky]

16 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

just have anarchy.

Paris Commune, yes please. 

[squirrelarmy]

9 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

The whole system would need to change

The political system is already corrupted. People aren’t happy with it so you can argue that it needs to change anyway.  

One person has the power to start that change. It’s the perfect time for Parliamentary reform. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

The political system is already corrupted. People aren’t happy with it so you can argue that it needs to change anyway.  

One person has the power to start that change. It’s the perfect time for Parliamentary reform. 

Agreed, the number 1 change we should bring in asap is PR. Once that’s in we can look at a plethora of other things as there won’t be the risk of the Tories getting a majority and ruining it all. 

[Neil]

can't believe how lenient this sentence is

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/13/mp-margaret-ferrier-given-community-sentence-for-travelling-with-covid

 

the woman - an MP (should have known better) had covid and went on a uk tour when she should have been isolating.

[Neil]

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, admitted at a hearing at Glasgow sheriff court last month that she had exposed the public “to the risk of infection, illness and death”.

 

[Guest]

 

[Neil]

tories gonna keep voting tory, says poll.

[lost]

Shows where the left/right paradigm is broken. The public maybe roughly inline with labour economically but on a different planet socially. Its why the press find it hilarious to ask Starmer if women have penises and the Tories get told they are "starting a culture war" when they are discussing the stuff where they are closer to public opinion.

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, lost said:

Shows where the left/right paradigm is broken. The public maybe roughly inline with labour economically but on a different planet socially. Its why the press find it hilarious to ask Starmer if women have penises and the Tories get told they are "starting a culture war" when they are discussing the stuff where they are closer to public opinion.

you're basing that women having penis thing off the fact tories are leading on law and order?

[Guest]

It shows that there hasn’t really been much movement between the 2 parties since Truss became PM.

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

It shows that there hasn’t really been much movement between the 2 parties since Truss became PM.

nuthing has happened for her to do anything.she needs to do something to catch the public's attention.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Neil said:

nuthing has happened for her to do anything.she needs to do something to catch the public's attention.

It goes to show that ditching Johnson in itself isn’t enough and her energy package hasn’t done a huge amount. 

[lost]

15 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

you're basing that women having penis thing off the fact tories are leading on law and order?

Nope in fact both parties having scores in the 20’s for both law and order and immigration suggests the general public maybe to the right of them both. 

[Guest]

 

[Digi]

On 9/9/2022 at 8:36 PM, pink_triangle said:

I hold the social media account as well. Most of my posts are either praising staff or our students. Are these really things the queen would find disrespectful?

Ditto. I'm one of a team of 4 Matrons- all we really use it for is shout outs for staff and stuff. We do a 'Tea at Three' thing once a month were we take cakes etc to a ward to say thanks. Feels a bit odd I can't post about it today

On 9/10/2022 at 11:08 AM, pink_triangle said:

I hope I am allowed to work it and get an extra day annual leave to work at another time.

I'm a bit indifferent. Only one of us needed to be in operationally to sort staffing etc as a fair bit of other stuff has been cancelled. My colleague got in first and offered. I lost my mum 4 months ago and whilst I defintely could never be classed as a Royalist, watching the very public outpouring of grief is just a bit shit right now. I mean, you know its bad when Nicola Sturgeon makes you cry. Finished work yesterday, got in the car and she was giving her official condolence speech... cue bawling 🤣 Might drive to see my dad on Monday and spend it with him instead 

[fraybentos1]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

It shows that there hasn’t really been much movement between the 2 parties since Truss became PM.

Tories gained like 6 points in a poll today but you're choosing to ignore it

[fraybentos1]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

It goes to show that ditching Johnson in itself isn’t enough and her energy package hasn’t done a huge amount. 

You've missed this one 🙂

[Guest]

57 minutes ago, Digi said:

Ditto. I'm one of a team of 4 Matrons- all we really use it for is shout outs for staff and stuff. We do a 'Tea at Three' thing once a month were we take cakes etc to a ward to say thanks. Feels a bit odd I can't post about it today

I'm a bit indifferent. Only one of us needed to be in operationally to sort staffing etc as a fair bit of other stuff has been cancelled. My colleague got in first and offered. I lost my mum 4 months ago and whilst I defintely could never be classed as a Royalist, watching the very public outpouring of grief is just a bit shit right now. I mean, you know it’s bad when Nicola Sturgeon makes you cry. Finished work yesterday, got in the car and she was giving her official condolence speech... cue bawling 🤣 Might drive to see my dad on Monday and spend it with him instead 

I’m really sorry to hear about you Mum, I hope you and your Dad are holding up ok given how the news has been. 

[Digi]

5 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m really sorry to hear about you Mum, I hope you and your Dad are holding up ok given how the news has been. 

Honestly? Its all a bit shit really but we will get there. I'm an only child and my son is an only child and the 4 of us were ridiculously close. Now it's me, Dad and Joe and the balance doesn't quite seem right anymore. My dad is amazing though. He's 80, still working and had spent the last 4 months holding my hand and drying my tears whilst trying to hold back his own ❤

70 just seems so young and dying from sepsis so preventable in the vast majority of cases. I'm "lucky" (and I use that for lack of a better word). Sepsis was recognised really quickly, treatment started swiftly and she had amazing care for the 8 days that she put up the fight of her life on ICU. Some battles just cant be won though. I don't have the overwhelming anger so many families in our situation have because it was recognised too late and for that I'm thankful 

Sorry - this is completely off topic. It's World Sepsis Day today though. My mum was one of 11 million annual global deaths. Please all ask 'Could this be sepsis?' if you or a loved becomes unwell. In health care we miss it too often or we diagnose it too late. I wouldn't wish this on anyone 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Digi said:

Honestly? Its all a bit shit really but we will get there. I'm an only child and my son is an only child and the 4 of us were ridiculously close. Now it's me, Dad and Joe and the balance doesn't quite seem right anymore. My dad is amazing though. He's 80, still working and had spent the last 4 months holding my hand and drying my tears whilst trying to hold back his own ❤

70 just seems so young and dying from sepsis so preventable in the vast majority of cases. I'm "lucky" (and I use that for lack of a better word). Sepsis was recognised really quickly, treatment started swiftly and she had amazing care for the 8 days that she put up the fight of her life on ICU. Some battles just cant be won though. I don't have the overwhelming anger so many families in our situation have because it was recognised too late and for that I'm thankful 

Sorry - this is completely off topic. It's World Sepsis Day today though. My mum was one of 11 million annual global deaths. Please all ask 'Could this be sepsis?' if you or a loved becomes unwell. In health care we miss it too often or we diagnose it too late. I wouldn't wish this on anyone 

I’m really sorry, that just sounds awful, you all sound incredibly strong to me to have to go through that. Bless your Dad though, trying to look after you through all of that.

I can’t begin to imagine what you’ve all be through, if you need to talk to someone completely separate then please feel to drop me a message.

I don’t know much about sepsis so I’ll try to read up a bit about, so thank you for that. 

[Digi]

14 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I’m really sorry, that just sounds awful, you all sound incredibly strong to me to have to go through that. Bless your Dad though, trying to look after you through all of that.

I can’t begin to imagine what you’ve all be through, if you need to talk to someone completely separate then please feel to drop me a message.

I don’t know much about sepsis so I’ll try to read up a bit about, so thank you for that. 

That's really kind - thank you ❤

My dad is awesome. He climbed Snowdon for his 80th birthday and raised a couple of grand for the ICU mum was on. I mean, he has no idea how to pay a bill or Internet banking but he's fab! 

Please do read up on it

S - slurred speech or confusion

E - extreme muscle pain or cramps

P - passing no urine all day 

S - severe breathlessness 

I - imagining you are going to die 

S - Skin colour changes (mottling, rash, extreme redness)

Mum went from talking to my son on the phone at 4pm completely coherent - she just felt like she had a bit of indigestion to start with. By 6pm she was unresponsive. I live 80 miles away and by the time I got there (the ambulance still hadn't arrived) she had a temperature of over 40, a blood pressure so low I couldn't get a reading, a heart rate so fast I couldn't count her pulse as it was too fast for me to keep up, and a respiratory rate of around 50 breaths a minute - she was undoubtedly about to arrest. It honestly can happen THAT fast and, despite being a nurse for 20 odd years, I was totally unaware of exactly HOW fast it could happen. The more likely cause was biliary sepsis. We think her bile duct was full of sludge and became infected which entered her blood stream. She was too unstable to go through the CT scanner though for a more indepth look

I'll keep bleating about it and telling her story even if it just raises a tiny bit of awareness 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Digi

[Rufus Gwertigan]

 

Oh dear. Centre Parcs are closing for the day 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62893476

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Digi said:

That's really kind - thank you ❤

My dad is awesome. He climbed Snowdon for his 80th birthday and raised a couple of grand for the ICU mum was on. I mean, he has no idea how to pay a bill or Internet banking but he's fab! 

Please do read up on it

S - slurred speech or confusion

E - extreme muscle pain or cramps

P - passing no urine all day 

S - severe breathlessness 

I - imagining you are going to die 

S - Skin colour changes (mottling, rash, extreme redness)

Mum went from talking to my son on the phone at 4pm completely coherent - she just felt like she had a bit of indigestion to start with. By 6pm she was unresponsive. I live 80 miles away and by the time I got there (the ambulance still hadn't arrived) she had a temperature of over 40, a blood pressure so low I couldn't get a reading, a heart rate so fast I couldn't count her pulse as it was too fast for me to keep up, and a respiratory rate of around 50 breaths a minute - she was undoubtedly about to arrest. It honestly can happen THAT fast and, despite being a nurse for 20 odd years, I was totally unaware of exactly HOW fast it could happen. The more likely cause was biliary sepsis. We think her bile duct was full of sludge and became infected which entered her blood stream. She was too unstable to go through the CT scanner though for a more indepth look

I'll keep bleating about it and telling her story even if it just raises a tiny bit of awareness 

I definitely will read up on it, I had no idea about any of it to be honest especially about how quickly it can develop that’s pretty terrifying. It must’ve been awful for you all, keep telling her story though and hopefully some good can come from this. ❤️

[Digi]

20 minutes ago, Rufus Gwertigan said:

 

Oh dear. Centre Parcs are closing for the day 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62893476

They have just retracted it because it was a bit ridiculous

I mean, I get asking people who are there from Fri - Mon to leave by 10am Monday

I get those there from Mon - Fri now getting a portion refunded and are arriving Tuesday instead 

Those there Fri to Fri were being asked to leave Monday at 10am and come back Tuesday which is just a whole load of a logistical nightmare for many 

I got back from Centre Parcs on Friday after taking my dad for a few days. I'd have been really disappointed if I was due to go Monday but fuming if I had already been there 3 days and then expected to leave and come back 24 hours later

Think they've realised this was going to turn out to be a bit of a PR nightmare. They've basically said those there Fri to Fri can stay but with no activities etc open on Monday 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Digi

[Zoo Music Girl]

2 hours ago, Digi said:

Honestly? Its all a bit shit really but we will get there. I'm an only child and my son is an only child and the 4 of us were ridiculously close. Now it's me, Dad and Joe and the balance doesn't quite seem right anymore. My dad is amazing though. He's 80, still working and had spent the last 4 months holding my hand and drying my tears whilst trying to hold back his own ❤

70 just seems so young and dying from sepsis so preventable in the vast majority of cases. I'm "lucky" (and I use that for lack of a better word). Sepsis was recognised really quickly, treatment started swiftly and she had amazing care for the 8 days that she put up the fight of her life on ICU. Some battles just cant be won though. I don't have the overwhelming anger so many families in our situation have because it was recognised too late and for that I'm thankful 

Sorry - this is completely off topic. It's World Sepsis Day today though. My mum was one of 11 million annual global deaths. Please all ask 'Could this be sepsis?' if you or a loved becomes unwell. In health care we miss it too often or we diagnose it too late. I wouldn't wish this on anyone 

Sorry to hear about your mum. I lost mine last year too and it was fucking shit, but it sounds like you were a lot closer than we were.

Sending love to you and your family.

Edited September 13, 2022 by Zoo Music Girl