news & politics:discussion

[lost]

Germany has started rationing energy. Street lights switched off, swimming pools closed, no hot water at schools or gyms. Most people rent and if you rent from the countries biggest landlord you wont be able to have your heating above 17c from 11pm to 6am this winter.

[steviewevie]

23 minutes ago, lost said:

Germany has started rationing energy. Street lights switched off, swimming pools closed, no hot water at schools or gyms. Most people rent and if you rent from the countries biggest landlord you wont be able to have your heating above 17c from 11pm to 6am this winter.

great news for the planet

[squirrelarmy]

Wish my work would have the same heating policy. Aircon seems to be on maximum heat all of the time. 

[Neil]

1 hour ago, Ozanne said:

it’s down to the Tory rebels to bring down this PM. 

to make themselves unemployed if they want to?

 

 

[Ozanne]

2 minutes ago, Neil said:

to make themselves unemployed if they want to?

 

 

I think there is still an option to form another government if someone can command the confidence of the Commons. If there isn’t anyone then an election is called.

Besides they should be thinking about the country rather than themselves. 

[squirrelarmy]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Besides they should be thinking about the country rather than themselves

These are Tories we’re talking about 

[Punksnotdead]

BBC Politics live have just said they are expecting to hear whether Starmer is fined this afternoon!

Could we see both leaders resigning in the same week? Has that ever happened before?

[Robjbrear]

2 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

BBC Politics live have just said they are expecting to hear whether Starmer is fined this afternoon!

Could we see both leaders resigning in the same week? Has that ever happened before?

No fine by the looks of it. 

[Punksnotdead]

2 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

BBC Politics live have just said they are expecting to hear whether Starmer is fined this afternoon!

Could we see both leaders resigning in the same week? Has that ever happened before?

Scratch that - he's in the clear!

[steviewevie]

 

[Ozanne]

Starmer cleared over beergate!

What a week this has been. 

[zahidf]

Just now, steviewevie said:

 

I'm sure the Mail will be very calm over this

[Crazyfool01]

Kier cleared … obviously puts them in a pretty strong position now !! 

[Ozanne]

Just now, zahidf said:

I'm sure the Mail will be very calm over this

They will completely normal I’m sure…

[Ozanne]

Roll on the new Tory leader. Sir Keir is heading to No 10!

[squirrelarmy]

Are we all celebrating with a beer and a curry this evening?

[lost]

Starmer, Rayner, Blatter and Platini all in one day.

[steviewevie]

In this tory leadership election all the candidates will be promising tax cuts to win votes...and then whoever wins won't do it because we can't afford it.

[Ozanne]

People can’t claim Starmer doesn’t take gambles and risks now. What with saying he’ll resign over beergate and a VONC in the government next week. 

[pink_triangle]

4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

If Starmer does the VONC next week he will only cause the Tories to circle the wagons and bring them together.  I don't see how that helps Labour at all.  They will attack Labour and then claim them to be self serving over the needs of the country.  Why fall into that obvious trap 😞 

I agree. I think it's best to let the tories do the damage to themselves.

[maelzoid]

Anyone hear the interview with 2 Tory MPs this morning on R4? 
shameless stuff. Apparently, BJ has achieved a lot and will be remembered as the best PM in recent years. Also, his pick for next PM? Liz Truss!

[lost]

Tom Tugendhat ahead on nominations but he's a Remainer so that may still rule him out within the party. Don't know much about him apart from that cracking Afghanistan speech. Appears to basically be the Tory Dan Jarvis.

Edited July 8, 2022 by lost

[fred quimby]

I am looking forward to Dead Ringers tonight

[fred quimby]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

If Starmer does the VONC next week he will only cause the Tories to circle the wagons and bring them together.  I don't see how that helps Labour at all.  They will attack Labour and then claim them to be self serving over the needs of the country.  Why fall into that obvious trap 😞 

This

[Ozanne]

Calling a VONC is a win win for Labour. It either gets rid of a deeply immoral PM or it goes the Tories the the deeply immoral and unpopular PM further tarnishing their reputation. It’s the smart move and hopefully will lead to a general election.