Football 2020/2021

[jyoung]

Similarly teams like Bournemouth arrive in the Prem and are considered the plucky underdogs. We're flogged a story about how they were almost relegated from the football league system but clawed their way to the Prem... Well they were fined for breaking FFP in their promotion season as well. IIRC they weren't hugely popular in the Championship that year for that exact reason.

[thetime]

23 minutes ago, jyoung said:

Similarly teams like Bournemouth arrive in the Prem and are considered the plucky underdogs. We're flogged a story about how they were almost relegated from the football league system but clawed their way to the Prem... Well they were fined for breaking FFP in their promotion season as well. IIRC they weren't hugely popular in the Championship that year for that exact reason.

FFP should be abolished anyway. 

Edited March 24, 2021 by thetime

[TheGayTent]

5 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Didn't they get the stadium for free by not paying the builder.

I don’t remember every specific but it’s plausible - and of course goes against your previous statement. 

[TheGayTent]

1 hour ago, jyoung said:

Similarly teams like Bournemouth arrive in the Prem and are considered the plucky underdogs. We're flogged a story about how they were almost relegated from the football league system but clawed their way to the Prem... Well they were fined for breaking FFP in their promotion season as well. IIRC they weren't hugely popular in the Championship that year for that exact reason.

Yes, I’ve mentioned Maxim Denim a number of times on here when I’ve read the plucky underdog line that’s often lazily trotted out. 

[eFestivals]

1 hour ago, TheGayTent said:

I don’t remember every specific but it’s plausible - and of course goes against your previous statement. 

They didn't spunk billions on plyers to ensure winning the league... Which is what city did.

[lost]

3 hours ago, thetime said:

FFP should be abolished anyway. 

Maybe about to get your wish if Bein sports are right.

 

[TheGayTent]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

They didn't spunk billions on plyers to ensure winning the league... Which is what city did.

Changing the goalposts. 

[eastynh]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

They didn't spunk billions on plyers to ensure winning the league... Which is what city did.

No they spunked millions on getting out of the championship. You can't win the premier league if you're in the championship 🤷‍♂️

At least we all know you are just anti city now.

If spunking billions enables you to win the premier league, why have United not won it since Ferguson retired?

[eastynh]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Maybe about to get your wish if Bein sports are right.

 

It should never have been implemented. It was never about making the playing field fair, it was about ring fencing the elite at the top and giving no one ekse the opportunity to break into it.

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, eastynh said:

No they spunked millions on getting out of the championship. You can't win the premier league if you're in the championship 🤷‍♂️

At least we all know you are just anti city now.

If spunking billions enables you to win the premier league, why have United not won it since Ferguson retired?

Because City spunked more?

[eastynh]

53 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Because City spunked more?

Seriously, why are you bothered what City spend? What difference does it make?

[Hugh Jass]

26 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Seriously, why are you bothered what City spend? What difference does it make?

Why are you so defensive about it?

It's perfectly ok to admit that you've gotten lucky. You wouldn't be anywhere near the club you are today had you not won the Saudi jackpot, you'd just be another Villa or Newcastle.

That's the difference it makes.

[pink_triangle]

20 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

That wasn't even the first thing. Back in the 00's (I forget which season), Leicester misused and abused the administration system to the extent that the football league introduced the points-docking to stop anyone doing the same again. They've got 20 years of playing financial tricks to spend more of other people's money for an edge in the football pyramid.

That's not say it wasn't great to see them win it, it was far more entertaining than the usual suspects getting it, and Spurs failing spectacularly is always funny, but they're not a "complete underdog" success story.

Annoyingly they milked the administration system and Wrexham were the first team punished by points deduction.

[jyoung]

My biggest gripe with City is that they beat us 1-0 in our only defeat during the 04-05 season with Anelka scoring from the spot. Could've been invincible but it just wasn't to be. It's made all the more annoying by the fact that Anelka then missed a penalty for us against United in the Champions League Final in 08. Football.

[eFestivals]

3 hours ago, TheGayTent said:

Changing the goalposts. 

you cant buy the league by signing the likes of tom cleverly or jesse lingard.

Edited March 24, 2021 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

2 hours ago, eastynh said:

Seriously, why are you bothered what City spend? What difference does it make?

a title or nothing

[charlierc]

11 hours ago, thetime said:

FFP should be abolished anyway. 

Was about to say I half-expect it to be ended before then seeing...

7 hours ago, lost said:

Maybe about to get your wish if Bein sports are right.

 

The idea behind FFP was not terrible imo, but it's just proved to be highly impractical to introduce or make work.

[lost]

25 minutes ago, charlierc said:

The idea behind FFP was not terrible imo, but it's just proved to be highly impractical to introduce or make work.

American sports manage it with salary caps and drafts. The thing is it was never about stopping clubs getting into too much debt it was about creating a cartel of clubs at the top which was impossible to break into.

[eastynh]

6 hours ago, eFestivals said:

a title or nothing

Whats your opinion on this? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56496888

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Whats your opinion on this? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56496888

Better use of their money than more slavery within their borders.

[eastynh]

7 minutes ago, eFestivals said:

Better use of their money than more slavery within their borders.

So you are ok with it? No protests outside parliment?

[eFestivals]

5 minutes ago, eastynh said:

So you are ok with it? No protests outside parliment?

Outside the uae parliament would set Mr up for being disappearred.

Edited March 25, 2021 by eFestivals

[pink_triangle]

7 hours ago, eastynh said:

Whats your opinion on this? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56496888

Let's be honest Abu Dhabi have a horrific human rights record and do things like this for PR purposes to take away the focus. While the investment is welcome, it should not be used to justify the bad.

[pink_triangle]

Any views on boycotting Qatar world cup? Looks like Norway are talking about it. I would fully support wales boycotting if they were to qualify. The reality is that it would take one of the big boys to boycott to have any impact.

My guess is nobody will boycott, but would be interesting to see if any individual players do.

[Hugh Jass]

1 hour ago, pink_triangle said:

Any views on boycotting Qatar world cup? Looks like Norway are talking about it. I would fully support wales boycotting if they were to qualify. The reality is that it would take one of the big boys to boycott to have any impact.

My guess is nobody will boycott, but would be interesting to see if any individual players do.

It’s easy to talk about boycotting when you’re not even likely to qualify.