Football 2020/2021

[eFestivals]

12 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

Eh, he's revolutionised Sterling from a flighty winger with no end product to a goal-scoring penetrative wide forward. 

or alternatively, Sterling was always going to grow up.
(unlike Jesse Lingard, who's just a kid and will be fantastic when he grows up 😛 )

You never know, someone might have spotted that Sterling was going to grow up and spunked a record fee for a kid on him.

And that wasn't even Pep.

[CG31]

1 hour ago, eFestivals said:

(unlike Jesse Lingard, who's just a kid and will be fantastic when he grows up 😛 )

Why can’t I upvote this 🤣🤣

[eastynh]

17 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

If you think noone else did that in this country before Pep, you didn't watch any team play apart from City.

I have been following City home and away for the best part of 25 years and watched football in multiple divisions.

 

[eastynh]

3 hours ago, eFestivals said:

Hello Emu, can I introduce you to 80s football...? 

(and hey, I'm probably Emu too)

Goal keepers picked it up with their hands in  80's, they did not play out from the back. You talk some shit, but I reckon that comment shows how absolutely clueless you are.

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Goal keepers picked it up with their hands in  80's, they did not play out from the back. You talk some shit, but I reckon that comment shows how absolutely clueless you are.

never heard of the sweeper keeper...? 

Edited January 26, 2021 by eFestivals

[eastynh]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

never heard of the sweeper keeper...? 

Stick to the Brexit thread Neil. 

[Hugh Jass]

Guardiola’s trophy haul isn’t much better than Mancini’s or Pellegrini’s.

Were multiple League Cups really what the billion quid was in aid of?

[eFestivals]

2 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Stick to the Brexit thread Neil. 

lol

The sweeper keeper was all about playing out from the back.

Yes, it was a little bit different back then because the rules were different back then, but it was still about playing out from the back.

[squirrelarmy]

Who influenced Guardiola’s playing style and football philosophy?

[eFestivals]

Just now, squirrelarmy said:

Who influenced Guardiola’s playing style and football philosophy?

someone from the 1970s, wasn't it...? 

[eFestivals]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeeper_(association_football)#Sweeper-keeper

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Sweeper-keepers have been popularised by managers who usually employ tactics inspired by total football, such as Johan Cruyff and Pep Guardiola,

lol

Edited January 26, 2021 by eFestivals

[Hugh Jass]

4 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

Who influenced Guardiola’s playing style and football philosophy?

Gary Megson.

[lost]

I expected the January transfer window to be quiet but not this quiet. Barcelona's published accounts yesterday were horrific, over a billion in debt, debts exceeding assets and negative working capital. I don't think this can go on much longer without one of the big boys going under. 

[kaosmark2]

7 hours ago, eFestivals said:

or alternatively, Sterling was always going to grow up.
(unlike Jesse Lingard, who's just a kid and will be fantastic when he grows up 😛 )

You never know, someone might have spotted that Sterling was going to grow up and spunked a record fee for a kid on him.

And that wasn't even Pep.

I'd say it's both. There was always a decent chance of him improving anyway, but there's a lot of "next big thing" wingers with as much promise as Sterling but no end product that never do. 

Some of it is down to Sterling, of course, he wouldn't have done it without having the maturity to work on his game (which say, Ben Arfa never did), but the improvement from when Guardiola came in was huge and very immediate. I think it's a case of the coach being able to offer the exact ways and points of how to improve, to a winger that wanted to.

[kaosmark2]

4 hours ago, eastynh said:

I have been following City home and away for the best part of 25 years and watched football in multiple divisions.

Then you've just not noticed narrow full backs and sweeper keepers and high presses before.

The fact he was able to marry all these things to the most effective level they've ever been in this country is different, he isn't a revolutionary.

[TheGayTent]

1 hour ago, kaosmark2 said:

I'd say it's both. There was always a decent chance of him improving anyway, but there's a lot of "next big thing" wingers with as much promise as Sterling but no end product that never do. 

Some of it is down to Sterling, of course, he wouldn't have done it without having the maturity to work on his game (which say, Ben Arfa never did), but the improvement from when Guardiola came in was huge and very immediate. I think it's a case of the coach being able to offer the exact ways and points of how to improve, to a winger that wanted to.

Walcott 

[kaosmark2]

4 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Walcott 

Great example.

[Hugh Jass]

32 minutes ago, TheGayTent said:

Walcott 

Walcott has been playing for 15 years. Think I can count on on e hand the number of times I’ve seen him play well.

[squirrelarmy]

Any neutrals want to comment on the refereeing in the Leeds Newcastle game?

Obviously I thought it was the worst performance from a ref I’ve seen in years but I do have a Leeds bias. If we had lost that game I would be wanting an investigation for match fixing. 

[eastynh]

6 hours ago, kaosmark2 said:

Then you've just not noticed narrow full backs and sweeper keepers and high presses before.

The fact he was able to marry all these things to the most effective level they've ever been in this country is different, he isn't a revolutionary.

He is in this country, which is what I said.

The proof is in the pudding tonight, no one has ever played football in this country like City do.

[eastynh]

11 hours ago, Hugh Jass said:

Guardiola’s trophy haul isn’t much better than Mancini’s or Pellegrini’s.

Were multiple League Cups really what the billion quid was in aid of?

Would you not like to win a League cup? They all count to me and I am more than ecstatic when ever we win absolutely anything. There is no way I would look down my nose at any trophy.

[CG31]

5 minutes ago, eastynh said:

The proof is in the pudding tonight, no one has ever played football in this country like City do.

It’s West Brom tho mate come on, that’s like saying Southgate is the best manager itw after England muller San Marino

[Hugh Jass]

19 minutes ago, eastynh said:

He is in this country, which is what I said.

The proof is in the pudding tonight, no one has ever played football in this country like City do.

Congratulations.

Your XI worth £500m is destroying our bunch of Championship players.

Guardiola truly is a genius.

[squirrelarmy]

54 minutes ago, eastynh said:

He is in this country, which is what I said.

The proof is in the pudding tonight, no one has ever played football in this country like City do.

You only scored 5. Leeds are shit right now and we put 5 past them so that makes you equal to Leeds. 

[Hugh Jass]

40 minutes ago, squirrelarmy said:

You only scored 5. Leeds are shit right now and we put 5 past them so that makes you equal to Leeds. 

Yup.

Man City are on the same level as Leeds and Crystal Palace.

Hell, even Arsenal managed four...