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1 hour ago, jyoung said:

Rumour is Tuchel is getting a 4.5 year deal. I don't see him lasting half that. We wanted Nagelsmann but weren't getting anywhere in that pursuit apparently. It was offered to Rangnick on an interim basis until the summer but he wasn't interested. Classic Chelsea.

Where Hiddink when you need him

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How about Liverpool and United just fuck off and we’ll have an 18 team PL that way?

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30 minutes ago, jyoung said:

All this unqualified talk, shouldn't have got the job talk... Yeah. No shit?! You don't sack someone because they shouldn't have had the job in the first place.

What? 
 

Why would you compound a mistake by doing nothing about it once you’ve realised a mistake has been made?

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59 minutes ago, jyoung said:

All this unqualified talk, shouldn't have got the job talk... Yeah. No shit?! You don't sack someone because they shouldn't have had the job in the first place.

We knew we were nowhere near the league when he came him in and that it would be a rebuilding job. He got us CL last year (which nobody expected), promoted youth players and turned them into regulars (everyone moaned for years that we didn't do this), and we would have won the FA Cup had the referee not been shit. Last year was a good start. This year the improvement hasn't been good enough enough and yes, we are underperforming at the moment but look at Arteta and Ole. Form fluctuates. We are still in the FA Cup and Champions League. I think the club chose to give him the opportunity and he should have had the chance to at least see the season through.

Nobody is arguing that he was ready for the job or deserved the job in the first place so idk why everyone is obsessing over that.

Chelsea chop and change at will, no manager will be given time. 

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49 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Five years and the best part of a billion quid and he’s delivered what? Two league titles and a few League Cups.

Wow.

Broke pretty much every record going, revolutionised football in this country, played beautiful football and won a few pots on the way.

Or maybe you prefer the United way. Spent over a billion pound since they last won a title, played absolutely dire football and best achievement was coming second to City one season.

Just to add, hes also won an FA Cup as well, which was part of a domestic treble, which had never been done in this country before.

 

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4 minutes ago, eastynh said:

revolutionised football in this country, 

I've heard this claim a lot but i genuinely haven't seen it justified. The biggest changes to football here have been brought about by Wenger, and by Abrahamovic and other huge money owners.

What sweeping changes (across the league, not just in Raheem Sterling and his signings) have happened post-Pep? 

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1 minute ago, kaosmark2 said:

I've heard this claim a lot but i genuinely haven't seen it justified. The biggest changes to football here have been brought about by Wenger, and by Abrahamovic and other huge money owners.

What sweeping changes (across the league, not just in Raheem Sterling and his signings) have happened post-Pep? 

Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it.

 

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3 minutes ago, thetime said:

Thats not the discussion, pep has been very ordinary in the champions league since barca.

The discussion is Pep in comparison to Ole, not Peps record in the Champions League.

How does Peps record in Champions League compare to Alex Fergusons?

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Just now, eastynh said:

The discussion is Pep in comparison to Ole, not Peps record in the Champions League.

How does Peps record in Champions League compare to Alex Fergusons?

Who was comparing ole and pep? Different gravy. 

Do you think pep has been successful since barca in the champions league? 

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44 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Broke pretty much every record going, revolutionised football in this country, played beautiful football and won a few pots on the way.

Or maybe you prefer the United way. Spent over a billion pound since they last won a title, played absolutely dire football and best achievement was coming second to City one season.

Just to add, hes also won an FA Cup as well, which was part of a domestic treble, which had never been done in this country before.

 

I prefer neither.

Guardiola was brought in at great expense and fanfare with the aim of making City the dominant force both at home and in Europe.

He hasn’t done that.

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59 minutes ago, eastynh said:

Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it.

If you think noone else did that in this country before Pep, you didn't watch any team play apart from City.

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2 hours ago, eastynh said:

Playing out from the back and using the keeper as an extra outfield player, high press, actually passing the ball rather than lumping it down the channels, narrow full backs and using them as extra midfielders, creating overloads in the final third. No one else played like that in this country and now lots of other teams try to imitate it.

 

Also known as Bielsaball. 

He revolutionised the way football is played and his many disciples brought that style of football over here. 

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