When will this shit end?

[dotdash79]

6 minutes ago, zahidf said:

 

"To those who say why take this step now, I say if not now then when."

Mañana

[steviewevie]

 

[Chapple12345]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

They have already said that they expect will get to 50k cases per day or thereabouts by 19th, right? And Javid said could get to 100k by mid August? Maybe this is worse case scenario stuff and won't be as bad. I guess main thing is deaths...if gets to 100 deaths/day then that might start spooking people...just have to see etc etc forever.

The cynic in me did wonder that if they warned this now and cases end up much lower if they could then claim a victory on it, such as them saying it could have been worse but it hasn’t been 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, zahidf said:

WHich is why post 19th July and we throw this thread in the bin, we can ignore the figures and crack on with life

Does that mean you stop sharing all the Indy SAGE stuff?

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Chapple12345 said:

The cynic in me did wonder that if they warned this now and cases end up much lower if they could then claim a victory on it, such as them saying it could have been worse but it hasn’t been 

maybe. Maybe it is from one of the more pessimistic scenarios from model forcasting epidimidingdong people.

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Does that mean you stop sharing all the Indy SAGE stuff?

that would be sad. We could have a Pagel thread?

[zahidf]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Does that mean you stop sharing all the Indy SAGE stuff?

if this thread isnt here, hopefully fake SAGE can go into oscurity where it belongs

[zahidf]

September review on unlocking though...

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Ozanne said:

Does that mean you stop sharing all the Indy SAGE stuff?

Just me you and stevie on the thread then as we enjoy these lockdowns 😂 and everyone else busy getting on with life 🙂 

[Guest]

Just now, zahidf said:

if this thread isnt here, hopefully fake SAGE can go into oscurity where it belongs

Indy SAGE and this thread aren’t intrinsically linked. 

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

if this thread isnt here, hopefully fake SAGE can go into oscurity where it belongs

Perhaps it’s already there but u keep sharing it 😂

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Indy SAGE and this thread aren’t intrinsically linked. 

I am Pagel.

[st dan]

So we all know we can’t eradicate the virus and we are all seemingly going to be getting on with our ‘normal lives’ from next week, so genuine question - what is the point in testing for it and then isolating etc anymore? I can’t make much sense of it when people will be going about spreading it unknowingly anyway. 

[Homer]

15 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

Mañana

Do, doooo, do , do, do

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, st dan said:

So we all know we can’t eradicate the virus and we are all seemingly going to be getting on with our ‘normal lives’ from next week, so genuine question - what is the point in testing for it and then isolating etc anymore? I can’t make much sense of it when people will be going about spreading it unknowingly anyway. 

because not all restrictions are lifted because the link between cases and hospitalisations is weakened but not broken.

[zahidf]

Mark Harper, the chair of the Covid Recovery Group, which represents lockdown-sceptic Tories, says hospital admission data is misleading because it included people testing positive for Covid, even if that is not why they were admitted to hospital. Policy should not be determined by “dodgy data”, he says.

Javid says Harper is making a “very good point”. He says he has asked for advice on whether the way the data is collected can change.

[efcfanwirral]

 

[zahidf]

 

[zahidf]

Just now, efcfanwirral said:

 

Uh oh. Hopefully deaths stay low and we can ignore the boffins if they try to take our freedoms again.

[incident]

Just now, zahidf said:

Mark Harper, the chair of the Covid Recovery Group, which represents lockdown-sceptic Tories, says hospital admission data is misleading because it included people testing positive for Covid, even if that is not why they were admitted to hospital. Policy should not be determined by “dodgy data”, he says.

Javid says Harper is making a “very good point”. He says he has asked for advice on whether the way the data is collected can change.

While it pains me to agree with one of those absolute arsewipes, he's right. And while the numbers are far too low to say with any confidence, I pointed out the other day that it's possible and maybe even probable that the same applies to death numbers - in the previous waves deaths attributed to covid were significantly higher than deaths with a positive test, whereas now they're slightly lower. But the numbers are low enough that we can't say for sure and that itself should be seen as a huge positive.

[steviewevie]

What time is the Bojo, Whitty and Vallance show on?

[Crazyfool01]

7 minutes ago, zahidf said:

Mark Harper, the chair of the Covid Recovery Group, which represents lockdown-sceptic Tories, says hospital admission data is misleading because it included people testing positive for Covid, even if that is not why they were admitted to hospital. Policy should not be determined by “dodgy data”, he says.

Javid says Harper is making a “very good point”. He says he has asked for advice on whether the way the data is collected can change.

So those numbers will likely reflect the numbers that are currently going into hospital and be the same as the community transmission figures 1 in whatever the latest amount is ? It’s not dodgy data … it just needs adjusting to reflect the current figure … although it would still be a case 

Edited July 12, 2021 by crazyfool1

[Guest]

Just now, steviewevie said:

What time is the Bojo, Whitty and Vallance show on?

5pm.

[steviewevie]

panorama about LoNG cOvId tonight.