jntsrb Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, eFestivals said: She's not one of the headliners. But she's not in a legend slot as some predicted. She's at the top of that poster. Edited March 15, 2019 by jntsrb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, jntsrb said: But she's not in a legend slot as some predicted. She's at the top of that poster. but that's about something she'll have demanded, that Glasto will have done to make her happy. Her ego. And not because she's actually a headliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jntsrb Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, eFestivals said: but that's about something she'll have demanded, that Glasto will have done to make her happy. Her ego. And not because she's actually a headliner. But she's bigger than all of them combined, globally. Literally. Artistically and commercially, so it doesn't even matter. It will be all about her at the end, like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, jntsrb said: But she's not in a legend slot as some predicted. not sure anyone predicted that, did they? Kylie was already announced for the legend slot when JJ was first known about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Maybe she's playing the Friday Rock Slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph100 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Joint legend slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, jntsrb said: But she's bigger than all of them combined, globally. It's irrelevant. David Hasslehoff is (was?) massive in Germany but he's yet to get a spot at the top of the Glasto bill. Like it or not, JJ simply isn't of the status to headline a UK festival of Glastonbury's size. (it's a great booking all the same btw. Something a bit different). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, H.M.V said: Wtf is wrong with people. Fucks sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 I have reservations about her rampant miming/vocal dodging. Soz to be -that guy- but its kryptonite to me as some of you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt42 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, eFestivals said: It's irrelevant. David Hasslehoff is (was?) massive in Germany but he's yet to get a spot at the top of the Glasto bill. Like it or not, JJ simply isn't of the status to headline a UK festival of Glastonbury's size. (it's a great booking all the same btw. Something a bit different). Nah the answer is simplier than that. Her management suffer from the American effect. American acts who are headliners in America demand headline slots globally regardless of whether they are a headliner globally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jntsrb Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, eFestivals said: It's irrelevant. David Hasslehoff is (was?) massive in Germany but he's yet to get a spot at the top of the Glasto bill. Like it or not, JJ simply isn't of the status to headline a UK festival of Glastonbury's size. (it's a great booking all the same btw. Something a bit different). She had more top 20 hits in the UK than any American female singer, except Madonna. More Top 20 hits than Robbie Williams, Prince, Celine Dione, ABBA and almost everyone. And unlike Britney, she had No. 1 albums in the UK. So comparing her with someone I don't even know who that person is, it's a bit silly. Edited March 15, 2019 by jntsrb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett_Salas Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, jntsrb said: She had more top 20 hits in the UK than any American female singer, except Madonna. More Top 20 hits than Robbie Williams, Prince, Celine Dion, and almost everyone. So comparing with someone I don't even know who that person is, it's a bit silly. He's said she's a great booking, but she's not headlining Glastonbury by any actual definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, jntsrb said: She had more top 20 hits in the UK than any American female singer, except Madonna. More Top 20 hits than Robbie Williams, Prince, Celine Dion, and almost everyone. So comparing with someone I don't even know who that person is, it's a bit silly. hey, i'm not knocking her or her output (tho it's not my bag), I'm just stating the reality of where she sits in a UK context. She might have had the hits, but they've not had the necessary cultural resonance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Its part of a re-launch strategy innit. She'll be on the Pymild but she ain't topping the tree. Number of hits is immaterial really. After all The Killers only have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jntsrb Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Matt42 said: Nah the answer is simplier than that. Her management suffer from the American effect. American acts who are headliners in America demand headline slots globally regardless of whether they are a headliner globally. Why a woman that played the largest stadiums at 5 continents (stadiums, not arenas) wouldn't be a global headliner? And Kylie that sold all albums combined less than Janet one of her albums, would be? This festival is not only for British people. It attracts tourists too. Edited March 15, 2019 by jntsrb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, jntsrb said: Why a woman that played the largest stadiums at 5 continents (stadiums, not arenas) wouldn't be a global headliner? And Kylie that sold all albums combined less than Janet one of her albums, would be? This festival is not only for British people. It attracts tourists too. Kylie isn't headlining either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jntsrb said: She had more top 20 hits in the UK than any American female singer, except Madonna. More Top 20 hits than Robbie Williams, Prince, Celine Dione, and almost everyone. And unlike Britney, she had No. 1 albums in the UK. So comparing with someone I don't even know who that person is, it's a bit silly. 20 years ago maybe she'd have headlined, but her songs aren't instantly recognisable to every generation like the greatest hits of all of those you've just mentioned are. It's a good booking and must have taken a lot of hard work, but her fans definitely do too much. We all know why her profile isn't what it was, but unfortunately the fact she was thrown under the bus by Justin Timberlake doesn't mean her cultural status should be imagined as bigger than it actually is. Edited March 15, 2019 by Rose-Colored Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, jntsrb said: Why a woman that played the largest stadiums at 5 continents (stadiums, not arenas) wouldn't be a global headliner? Why knows why? The fact is, at Glastonbury she isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Its part of a re-launch strategy innit. She'll be on the Pymild but she ain't topping the tree. Number of hits is immaterial really. After all The Killers only have one. And theyre fronted by a Vegas impersonator of Baz from Viz's Fat Slags. Natch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FakeEmpire Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Wooderson said: I have reservations about her rampant miming/vocal dodging. Soz to be -that guy- but its kryptonite to me as some of you know. Yes, this is the thing that could put a dampener on this set for me. Although, Dolly got away with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 We've a new Jens Wildman, everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northtim Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hope it isn't like Emile Sande last time for JJ. Wandered past an almost empty Other Stage n 2017 as Emile belted out her read all about it hit to a tragically small crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just now, FakeEmpire said: Yes, this is the thing that could put a dampener on this set for me. Although, Dolly got away with it! I was like "huh" after 3 seconds of her "singing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Wooderson said: And theyre fronted by a Vegas impersonator of Baz from Viz's Fat Slags. Natch. Reminds me more of a World War II spiv from the Twilight Zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jntsrb Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Rose-Colored Boy said: 20 years ago maybe. Her songs aren't instantly recognisable to every generation, like the greatest hits of all of those you've just mentioned are. It's a good booking and must have taken a lot of hard work, but her fans definitely do too much. We all know why her profile isn't what it was, but unfortunately the fact she was thrown under the bus by Justin Timberlake doesn't mean her cultural status should be imagined as bigger than it actually is. Forget about Justin. Janet's music is so respected that she has 4 albums at almost all relevant lists of the best albums ever made. Often in Top 10. Think about Janet as an innovative and influential musician, not about Janet as the best-paid music artist in history. She is, and Brits made her the best-paid but that's irrelevant for this festival. Her artistry is the reason. She's respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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