New security measures in place

[DeanoL]

6 minutes ago, benjii said:

I'm guessing we're all going to be forced to drink all our alcohol at the gate to reassure security that it's not harmful chemicals. I hope they're providing the snacks.

Nah, they're doing it the other way round. It's the profiling people were talking about earlier. Free shots at the gate but if you decline you get searched on suspicion of being religious.

[DeanoL]

3 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

So each security check is 5-10 minutes per person?

If 80,000 people turn up Wednesday morning...

80,000 x 5 mins = 277.77 DAYS.

 

There's not a festival next year because we'll still be queuing for this years!

 

So they employ 500 people to search and everyone's cleared in just over half a day. It's expensive and logistically difficulty. It's not impossible.

[squirrelarmy]

As previously mentioned. They will have a certain number of tables for searching, when a spot becomes free another random person from the queue will get called over for the rubber glove treatment.

Majority of us should be fine, just spare a thought for those being asked to spread their legs and cough.

[GriZlore]

Can you imagine if they did unpack tents, especially those pop-up ones which take about three days to get them back in the bag.

[jonodillieono]

Matts now followed up with:

'I snuck mine in by ballsing my stuff, But my bag was opened and looked through, not a very thorough search, They aren't looking for drugs they are looking for weapons and stuff'

[The60ftOctopus]

3 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

So they employ 500 people to search and everyone's cleared in just over half a day. It's expensive and logistically difficulty. It's not impossible.

True that. 13 hours doesn't sound too bad

[Alvarhanso]

1 minute ago, jonodillieono said:

Matts now followed up with:

'I snuck mine in by ballsing my stuff, But my bag was opened and looked through, not a very thorough search, They aren't looking for drugs they are looking for weapons and stuff'

maybe my walkers can rest easy then, surely they will just shake the bag!

[mufcok]

1 minute ago, squirrelarmy said:

As previously mentioned. They will have a certain number of tables for searching, when a spot becomes free another random person from the queue will get called over for the rubber glove treatment.

Majority of us should be fine, just spare a thought for those being asked to spread their legs and cough.

I imagine this will be pretty accurate, minus the rubber gloves

[p.pete]

1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

So they employ 500 people to search and everyone's cleared in just over half a day. It's expensive and logistically difficulty. It's not impossible.

It might be something like this - I think they are throwing money at the issue, and sounds like there are tons of security people on site.  Still not sure logistically where they create the space for 20/30 simultaneous bag checks at each gate...

[Fred Zepplin]

17 minutes ago, waterfalls212434 said:

well obviously theyd hire rather then buy it, I don`t know the logistics exactly but im pretty sure these kind of scanners would be available for those running large events to hire?

Maybe next year they will but the extra searches have probably only been planned since the Manchester attack so haven't had time to source these

[ThePope]

19 hours ago, budvar said:

Not sure it's either. If there were intelligence of a planned attack I suspect the festival would be postponed/called off.

"Scare tactic" suggests there's no threat and it's just being done to scare the punters - I'd say it's precautionary.

I was at Bournemouth 7's festival at the end of May and there were stringent bag searches and armed police. The festival organizer said that it was purely because of the national heightened threat level, not because of any specific threat. (obviously he is always going to say that).

I think its all hot air (literally). There will be bag searches, but for 1 in 10 people say. In the 5 years I've been coming I've seen 1 table being used to search a bag.

Just get a bit imaginative with your packing.

 

thanks,

 

The Pope.

[DeanoL]

2 minutes ago, p.pete said:

It might be something like this - I think they are throwing money at the issue, and sounds like there are tons of security people on site.  Still not sure logistically where they create the space for 20/30 simultaneous bag checks at each gate...

That's the thing. I'd have thought some already on site would have seen evidence of it if they were going that route by now.

[rosssss224]

2 minutes ago, p.pete said:

It might be something like this - I think they are throwing money at the issue, and sounds like there are tons of security people on site.  Still not sure logistically where they create the space for 20/30 simultaneous bag checks at each gate...

underground excavation / bunker? 

[windy_miller]

5 minutes ago, jonodillieono said:

Matts now followed up with:

'I snuck mine in by ballsing my stuff, But my bag was opened and looked through, not a very thorough search, They aren't looking for drugs they are looking for weapons and stuff'

WTF does this mean?  Should I wax them before hand?

[p.pete]

2 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

True that. 13 hours doesn't sound too bad

That could be about right.  Certainly anyone arriving 9 or 10am, who'll probably have the maximum amount of people queuing ahead of them - if they end up queued at a particularly shit gate could reach 13 hours...

[p.pete]

1 minute ago, rosssss224 said:

underground excavation / bunker? 

Hah - route the queue via the piano bar  

Edited June 19, 2017 by p.pete

[stopwn1981]

1 minute ago, p.pete said:

That could be about right.  Certainly anyone arriving 9 or 10am, who'll probably have the maximum amount of people queuing ahead of them - if they end up queued at a particularly shit gate could reach 13 hours...

= civil unrest.

[p.pete]

1 minute ago, windy_miller said:

WTF does this mean?  Should I wax them before hand?

Depends what'll stick better - assume they're going to get fairly sweaty...

[DeanoL]

5 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

True that. 13 hours doesn't sound too bad

1000 people and it's 6.5 hours. You can throw money, people and space at it and search everyone. The space is the main issue, but you just extend it out to where the queue is. It's not impossible. Likely they'll go this route? No. 

[sheffieldlady]

6 minutes ago, The60ftOctopus said:

True that. 13 hours doesn't sound too bad

Beats the 14 hours on a coach last year. But the coach did have air con.. 

[p.pete]

Just now, stopwn1981 said:

= civil unrest.

Yep, I'm sure they're expecting chaos.  I wonder have they any plans in place to manage the queue or make things more comfortable.  We'll be rich pickings for icecream vans selling £4 fanta.

[incident]

21 minutes ago, waterfalls212434 said:

well obviously theyd hire rather then buy it, I don`t know the logistics exactly but im pretty sure these kind of scanners would be available for those running large events to hire?

There's 18 gates. You'd need 30+ scanners of suffcient size that they could handle the kind of shit people bring with them. You'd also need to be able to provide power to them.

[robin]

6 minutes ago, p.pete said:

It might be something like this - I think they are throwing money at the issue, and sounds like there are tons of security people on site.  Still not sure logistically where they create the space for 20/30 simultaneous bag checks at each gate...

Someone would have mentioned that the gate entrance areas where they do the searches are each 20 times the size of normal by now.

Best they can do is just try and search people a bit more efficiently, so they are possibly doing better searches on the workers going in now as practice. Still can't see how having a name tag on your bag speeds the process up at all though. It's irrelevant putting a name tag on the bag as far as security is concerned. It helps with sorting out lost property, but not a lot else.

[priest17]

Are people really suggesting 13 hour queues aren't that bad? In that heat? With all your stuff? Baring in mind that's not even accounting for a second trip? I can queue (and will if needs be) but that's a really shite day.

Is there not a way they can check people's bags whilst they're in the queue or something? 

[stopwn1981]

On the BBC Emily said people would have to queue a 'bit' longer. That could come back to bite her twitter feed in the arse, if things go to shit on Wednesday. But some hope to cling to that it wont be too horredous.

If it's anything like last year, they were at pains to announce that by the evening there were the same amount of people on site as the year before (despite the traffic shitshow). 

The fireworks on Wednesday night will be a bit shit if they've only managed to get a few thousand people through the gates.