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Don't think I'd call that area "quiet". More like "you'll have drunk people traipsing past at all hours of the night and still hear the sound from the stages until 5am". If you're actually after a quiet area you'd be better off the right side of the trees in the general campervan area... but it's all relative. I think quiet in this context just means a tiny bit closer to the site for little people legs to walk.

Sorted. 🙂

Whoever you want, but they HAVE to turn up at the festival for the campervan ticket to be useable.

If the kids are under 12 then they don't need tickets. If over 12 then they are regular tickets and count towards the total.

Depends on who the lead booker is. It doesn't matter if there is a mix of UK/ International in the rest of the group.

Thread title is "Crowd control issues" which is different from "There were loads more people on site". We know there were crowd control issues because, well there were crowd control issues. However, there were not loads more people on site because we know there was not a mass fence jump, and the number of people with tickets is set. The increase in number of tickets is tiny compared to the overall numbers on site. Two totally different things, and being in a crush at Sugarbabes doesn't mean there were massive numbers more on site. Would be like claiming the site was empty because there wasn't any queues at the cash machines this year.

People posting about their experiences in a crowd at Williams Green or The Park when nothing else was on and using that as the basis for saying that it was busier than normal are not necessarily reliable witnesses as they put themselves into the middle of that crowd and seem to be surprised that there was then a crowd. The numbers of additional tickets sold doesn't support the claim of it being significantly more busy than normal recent years, and it certainly wasn't as busy as 2000.

The Wednesday and Thursday were busier than previously, but that has been gradually changing over the last 20 years or so. It was noticeable how few new people were arriving on Thursday and Friday. Maybe that there wasn't the build up of numbers over a couple of days changed perceptions as well. There were more tickets sold than previous years, but in relation to the total numbers it was a tiny amount.

No I'm not saying people didn't experience crowds, I'm saying that the site as a whole was no busier than normal. Maybe more people going to smaller stages at the same time than normal, and bad crowd management. But got no impression that there were more people than normal

Screens would make it dangerous in a wet year on the hill. Too many people up there and you have a big pile of them sliding down on top of each other.

Don't tell me my experience didn't happen either. The site as a whole didn't feel any busier than normal. The camping areas are a good indicator and with people taking bigger tents than decades ago, but there didn't seem to be tents piled on top of each other as I used to see. Unless there was some mass fence jumping that nobody noticed the increase of 10 or 20k people among a population of 200k+ isn't enough to suddenly cause overcrowding everywhere. More likely a change in people's perception and bad crowd management.

Yes, but that is from people going to Williams Green on the Thursday to see Mel C and being surprised that lots of other people had the same idea, or lots of people going to The Park at the same time and also being surprised that they were not alone. Now if there were reports of the Pyramid Field being over capacity on Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon at points when there were expected to be big crowds then there might be a point. There may well have been crowd managem issues with them scheduling things on the wrong stages at the wrong times, but I really didn't get the feeling that there was more people than normal. The camping areas didn't seem any busier than normal and certainly not at 2000 and before levels. I was going around all areas at different times of the weekend and never felt it was too busy, and was even going through the middle of the Saturday evening and Sunday afternoon peak crowds at the Pyramid with my 7 year old in tow... Was just normal Glastonbury crowd overall... Just some bad crowd management in some areas, not excessive numbers on the site as a whole.

Really didn't feel that it was any busier than normal. But seems that all the complaints about people being stuck in crowds are based on having gone to the only entertainment on at that time, or what would quite obviously be the busiest thing on at that moment. Plenty of other places to go and see or do something that isn't as busy.

The compost loos were by far the best and least stinky in my experience. Might have depended on the location, but the ones nearest my camping area were pretty much perfect all the time, just the very occasional cubical that people refused to use.

Don't think the site overall is especially busy, just the lack of entertainment on Thursday meant lots of people going to the same areas. Previously when there wasn't any entertainment people were more spread out and entertaining themselves. I noticed on the tshirt and official twitter that they are referring to the festival being 5 days long (22nd - 26th) and the Friday as being day 3. Previously the Friday would have always been called day 1 and the dates would have been 24th - 26th.