When a pint isn't a pint scam

[Flux Capacitor]

Did anyone else notice that last year some bars were ripping us off and I don't mean the price...

Some of the bars were advertising 'pints' but they were actually only serving a US 16oz 'pint' which is 473ml at the same price as other bars that were serving the proper UK pint (568ml).

 

Might sound a bit anal but that's a lot of beer they're scrimping on when multiplied by a festival crowd.

I only noticed because I had one of those Klean kanteen steel pint cups which is a US pint so I should have had beer left over in the paper cup when  transferring  in!

 

As glasto are having their own steel cups this year it makes me wonder what size they will really be...

[stuartbert two hats]

17 minutes ago, Flux Capacitor said:

Did anyone else notice that last year some bars were ripping us off and I don't mean the price...

Some of the bars were advertising 'pints' but they were actually only serving a US 16oz 'pint' which is 473ml at the same price as other bars that were serving the proper UK pint (568ml).

 

Might sound a bit anal but that's a lot of beer they're scrimping on when multiplied by a festival crowd.

I only noticed because I had one of those Klean kanteen steel pint cups which is a US pint so I should have had beer left over in the paper cup when  transferring  in!

 

As glasto are having their own steel cups this year it makes me wonder what size they will really be...

Any examples? That sounds illegal! I'd be very, very surprised if the steel cups aren't UK pints.

Edited May 8, 2016 by stuartbert two hats

[GlastoLuvvinJock]

I took a tankard last year which holds 3/4 of a pint. I could comfortably pour my "pint" from the paper cups into it. So yes I noticed as well.

[Flux Capacitor]

19 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

Any examples? That sounds illegal! I'd be very, very surprised if the steel cups aren't UK pints.

I don't think I took any photos but really to prove I would need a video.

My friends witnessed me transferring the 'pint'.

 

I think the bars in south east corner/west holts were the main culprits. 

Acoustic field, other stage etc were ok I think.

 

Basically the tall cups were a pint, the fatter shorter ones weren't.

 

Edited May 8, 2016 by Flux Capacitor
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[stuartbert two hats]

I'd be interested in @glasto-worker's take on this.

[Henrik]

I don't even think about these sort of things. I just tend to drink what they put in front of me. 

[Beerqueen]

3 minutes ago, Henrik said:

I don't even think about these sort of things. I just tend to drink what they put in front of me. 

I guess that's what they're assuming.  Bit cynical and annoying and illegal if true.

[musky]

Glasto-worker is with WBC isn't he? The other big provider of bars is Avalon, though I've little idea of who runs which bars. Avalon ones are staffed by Shelter volunteers aren't they? It'd be interesting to see if there's a correlation with the smaller cups. 

I've got to say that MDC are all over the bars during the festival and I'd be quite surprised if they don't check the measures. 

[Henrik]

Just think of the cash we could all claim back. 

This could be the new PPI . 

[russycarps]

This is shocking if true. Hope the cider bus aren't con merchants. I wonder if brothers are honest too

[Flux Capacitor]

1 minute ago, russycarps said:

This is shocking if true. Hope the cider bus aren't con merchants. I wonder if brothers are honest too

Cider bus was definitely a proper pint as they used the tall cups ( and it didn't fit in my klean canteen 'pint' cup)

[RichardWaller]

Ooh, that'll be scandalous if it is true. Not noticed meself, but like @Henrik and @Beerqueen say if this is happening that'll be the point.. Will keep an eye out anyway, I'm mildly obsessed with numbers and measures so I think I probably would've noticed if my pint was 10% less... 

[Heather90]

1 hour ago, russycarps said:

This is shocking if true. Hope the cider bus aren't con merchants. I wonder if brothers are honest too

I think they'd be doing me a favour if they were. So sweet but oh so deadly

[morph100]

Has any asked the festival office for a comment on this issue yet? Would be interested to see what they say.

[JoeyT]

Always thought the brothers cups were same size as cider bus. Many a time I've strolled between the two and put my empties beneath the others.

easily done if your a slow drinker and it's not your round by the time you've left one bar and gone to the other!

[Lucy92]

Pretty sure the brother bars are full pints. I remember them being in the big tall cups (just checked a picture of me with said brothers 'pint' one year and it certainly looks fine from the brothers bar) 

[smytho15]

This must be highly illegal and and if it was pub it would be shut down with massive fines I am sure. These are very strong allegations do we have proof and why is it a year to come to light.

[Flux Capacitor]

34 minutes ago, smytho15 said:

This must be highly illegal and and if it was pub it would be shut down with massive fines I am sure. These are very strong allegations do we have proof and why is it a year to come to light.

I posted about it last year as well on Facebook, i'll try and dig out the post.  

The thing is it is a pint, just not a UK pint. As for proof, I have witnesses and i'm sure some people must have souvenir paper cups somewhere!

GlastoLuvvinJock has also noticed it too.

Just to to make it clear again. It wasn't ALL bars.  

From memory it was south-east corner, west holts and cabaret field.

It WASN'T these cups. 

Edited May 8, 2016 by Flux Capacitor
added pic

[marathonsteve]

I Worked in the bar next to the Acoustic stage and they were a full pint.

[MilkyJoe]

Not doubting this for a second but realistically witnesses aren't proof. It's just a bunch of people with an opinion. Definitely need a bar worker's opinion on this. Or one of said pint pots.

[kaytee...]

Its the same with large and medium coffee cups in a certain chain of coffee shops. You'll find that you'll fill a medium cup with a 'large' drink

[Amy Lawn]

2 minutes ago, kaytee... said:

Its the same with large and medium coffee cups in a certain chain of coffee shops. You'll find that you'll fill a medium cup with a 'large' drink

Starbucks?

[Sawdusty surfer]

I'd be amazed if any bar at Glastonbury would have the cahones to sell short pints these days. MDC are SO on the case of all bars. Bar concessions earn a fortune and it would be too big a risk with far too much to lose. I'm pretty sure that I haven't been sold a short pint there for years. 

This is only my opinion.

 

Edited May 8, 2016 by Sawdusty Surfer

[fur_q]

This sounds a bit strange to me, all bars at the festival have to be inspected by the licensing authority before they are alowed to open, these inspections include wights and mesures checks, so I can't imagine there's be able to get away with undersize cups. I can't help but wonder if this is some kind weird attempt at spamming as the op mentioning the brand of steal cup they had in 2 of the 4 posts they've made on the forum seems odd behaviour to me. 

[Flux Capacitor]

6 minutes ago, fur_q said:

This sounds a bit strange to me, all bars at the festival have to be inspected by the licensing authority before they are alowed to open, these inspections include wights and mesures checks, so I can't imagine there's be able to get away with undersize cups. I can't help but wonder if this is some kind weird attempt at spamming as the op mentioning the brand of steal cup they had in 2 of the 4 posts they've made on the forum seems odd behaviour to me. 

Lol if it makes you feel better I can edit my posts.

 
If i was advertising their cups it wouldn't look good to show that it doesn't actually hold a proper UK pint now would it.

I'm pretty sure the cups in question were a plain design, yellowy orange.   Shorter and fatter than the photos above.
 

Edited May 8, 2016 by Flux Capacitor