Philosophy and all that jazz

[Wow-wys-buzzing]

Recently had a bit of a to do with someone on Facebook following the announcement of Adele, he was saying that I am too young to understand the spirit of Glastonbury and that 'The real Glastonbury festival died many years ago. It is now a plastic, commercial event with no heart and soul' 

Not sure what to make of this cos I thought it was remarkably special last year and lots of heart and soul, a culture that I had never experienced before. 

[stuartbert two hats]

12 minutes ago, Wow-wys-buzzing said:

Recently had a bit of a to do with someone on Facebook following the announcement of Adele, he was saying that I am too young to understand the spirit of Glastonbury and that 'The real Glastonbury festival died many years ago. It is now a plastic, commercial event with no heart and soul' 

Not sure what to make of this cos I thought it was remarkably special last year and lots of heart and soul, a culture that I had never experienced before. 

He is an old fuck who can't deal with the fact that things do in fact change.  It is different, but it's far from soulless.

[Woffy]

Cut and paste!

[Keithy]

Nostalgia is a seductive mistress. Things always were better in our selective memories.

Have never quite got what the 'spirit of Glastonbury' actually is. Or more why people try to define what it is and isn't.

Glastonbury is an ever changing beast and that's why it remains the greatest festival in the world.

[Woffy]

1 minute ago, Keithy said:

Nostalgia is a seductive mistress. Things always were better in our selective memories.

 

Except Wagon Wheels and Pickled Onion Monster Munch were better back in the day.

[russycarps]

I wonder what his efestivals username is

[Spindles]

Yeah, I'm constantly told by people who went once in the 90's that I must be some sort of idiot for enjoying the festival in its current form.  Honestly I couldn't give 2 shits for their opinions.

The fact that it evolves, that the crowd each year brings a little of themselves and changes the flavour, that's part of the attraction. 

[Wow-wys-buzzing]

20 minutes ago, Woffy said:

Cut and paste!

yer was quoting one of his comments

 

[warriormonk]

20 minutes ago, Wow-wys-buzzing said:

Recently had a bit of a to do with someone on Facebook following the announcement of Adele, he was saying that I am too young to understand the spirit of Glastonbury and that 'The real Glastonbury festival died many years ago. It is now a plastic, commercial event with no heart and soul' 

Not sure what to make of this cos I thought it was remarkably special last year and lots of heart and soul, a culture that I had never experienced before. 

Did this someone say if he had ever been to Glastonbury?  

The reason I ask is I hear this a lot from people who have never been ...'that Glastonbury is really commercial nowadays isn't it...'  To which I suggest to them for starters....the Festival no main commercial sponsor, unlike most other festivals the audience is not held within an inner corral and force fed with (*ucking) Tuborg to guarantee corporate exclusivity; the main corporate presence seems to be Oxfam, Greenpeace and Water Aid; the Eavii sink shit loads of money into arty stuff that has no commercial 'return'; that, yes, the festival features some very popular artists as headliners  - but since when does populism = commercialism; for every commercially uber-successful band on a main stage, the festival features god knows how many breaking or just 'good not commercially viable' bands; that the festival is bigger than in 1970...but, well, whoopy fucking dooo..  I then invite them to come to Glastonbury to check it out for themselves.  They generally tell me they've already booked in for a festival which does have corporate sponsorship.  Sigh.

[CaledonianGonzo]

6 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

Captain Hot Take

[CaledonianGonzo]

26 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

Jimmy Iconoclast?

[Chawk]

It's been downhill ever since they started supporting those capitalists at WaterAid.

[CaledonianGonzo]

32 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

Preacherman?

[CaledonianGonzo]

47 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

The Sheeple Waker

[CaledonianGonzo]

48 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

Boaty McBoatface 

[CaledonianGonzo]

49 minutes ago, russycarps said:

I wonder what his efestivals username is

Father Spodo Komodo

[stardustjunkie]

I just go and enjoy myself.

Sure it would've been cool to experience it in its early days but I wasn't even born so no point listening to people whining that it was better 'back in the day'. Maybe it was but I'll never know and I love it for what it is now.

[___S_o_m_a__]

Bet he told you that Creme Eggs were bigger back in the day too when everyone knows it's just your hands that get bigger as you get older.

 

You're welcome.

[russycarps]

28 minutes ago, ___S_o_m_a__ said:

Bet he told you that Creme Eggs were bigger back in the day too when everyone knows it's just your hands that get bigger as you get older.

 

You're welcome.

They may be the same size but they defo tasted better in the good old days!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cadbury-s-loses-6m-after-changing-creme-egg-recipe-a6807591.html

[dizzymoo]

His experience of Glastonbury back in the day is irrelevant (if he even went).  You had an amazing time which opened your eyes to how people can be when they're away from the 'real' world.  The more curmudgeonly old farts like him who don't want to go, the better our chance of getting tickets,  so it's win-win!

[Spindles]

7 hours ago, warriormonk said:

 the Eavii sink shit loads of money into arty stuff that has no commercial 'return'

Fantastic post and this particular point just never gets made.

 

[musky]

I have a friend who last went in 1986, saying it had become too big. I wonder what year he had in mind for being 'true' to the glasto spirit?

Edited March 22, 2016 by musky

[eFestivals]

12 minutes ago, musky said:

I have a friend who last went in 1986, saying it had become too big. I wonder what year he had in mind for being 'true' to the glasto spirit?

that was the year I first went, and some of the crushes around the gates between the fields could be pretty scary (but also fun).

Today's Glastonbury is far tamer and less chaotic, but so is life in general. It wouldn't be today's beast if it hadn't got that bit tamer.

 

Edited March 22, 2016 by eFestivals

[CaledonianGonzo]

I suspect that if you were to pick the average punter up on, say, the Saturday afternoon of the 2015 fesival and transport them back in time 35 or so years to a festival in the early 1980s it wouldn't be long before they'd be asking to come back to 2015 again.

[maelzoid]

I went to 6 in the 90s. I can definitively say that 'The Real Glastonbury Festival' is still very much alive and kicking, and all reports of its death have been exaggerated.

To paraphrase Derren Brown, the 'someone on facebook' is free to take their opinion, write an email, print it out, fold it up, and pop it in their bottom.