The Who/Weller confirmed

[SERRIDGER]

Any non Who fans who haven't got into them, would recommend giving these two albums a.listen.

Who's Next & Quadrophenia

[mungo57]

I look forward to Mungo57 destroying half of his record collection, much of which will have been written and recorded by horrible junkies whose habits kill thousands a year.

Clapton, GONE. The Beatles, GONE.

In fact, thousands of musicians since the dawn of time, GONE.

See, it's black and white.

I don't really care for Clapton or the Beatles, save the SPLHCB album and the S/T one.

Also I don't really have a problem with drugs. I smoke weed after all, I haven't got a problem with people taking what they want to take.

Never understood the lure of Heroin though. But meh if people want to let them

Edited May 6, 2015 by mungo57

[DeanoL]

He paid to access child porn. He is a paedophile. I refer you to Neil's comments in another post whatever that was as he has a way with words that I dont sadly - and his summing up was pretty spot on for my point of view. He accepted a caution which is tantamount to being guilty as fucking sin.

Absolutely. Guilty of accessing the site once. Which he admitted to and was rightly punished for. Why did he do that? One explanation is that he is a paedophile who has managed to cover his tracks since, despite being a high profile media celebrity and on the sex offenders register. Possible? Certainly. Likely? Not so sure.

Or maybe he was curious. Or drunk. Or high. And he fucked up for all of five seconds and did something stupid and horrible. You'll tell me that's no excuse. And you're right. You should still be punished for that regardless. Like he was.

But someone goping out and getting too drunk once does not mean they're an alcoholic. Someone ODing doesn't mean they're a drug addict. Someone getting into a single point doesn't make them a violent person. Sometimes it just means they fucked up.

(and if we're using the "look at where the money goes" arguement we probably need to be equally opposed to anyone at the festival on drugs.)

[Martin Ashford]

Ah. Fantastic news. My Sunday sorted right there. I said Michael and Emily always deliver.

[shoptildrop]

Well to me this is a big booking and I'm sure plenty of folk will be happy to see them but this has just made it an easier call to go and see the Chems who I have missed every festival I have been too, so I'm happy tbh

I know they are legendary but I'm not a one to go and see some one just because I should or but they are legends and you will never see them again scenarios...I am almost relieved I don't have to every night at the Pyramid as Foos is a given for me and possibly looking at 50/50 spilt between Kanye & Mothership on the Saturday

I'm actually more intrigued with this story about what happened to the original headliner, let's hope Neil can spill the beans.....

[The Placid Casual]

Also I don't really have a problem with drugs

They probably explain 99% of your posts today.

[Bonehead> Clapton]

I don't really care for Clapton or the Beatles, save the SPLHCB album and the S/T one.

Also I don't really have a problem with drugs. I smoke weed after all, I haven't got a problem with people taking what they want to take.

Never understood the lure of Heroin though. But meh if people want to let them

They had better albums than Sgt pepper, give em a listen, you may be surprised. Inb4 the backlash I love Sgt peppers btw

[bennyhana22]

I don't need to respond, statements like this say all there is.

While I liked the first few U2 albums very much I've not been so keen on the later albums, that is my personal opinion.

I am not so self centred though to assume that everybody else is wrong and I am right. If an artist sells a million albums and I don't like them it does not mean they don't deserve to have sold a million albums or that they aren't immensely popular.

Bit like saying Chelsea didn't deserve to win the Prem simply because I don't support them.

Sorry, but the analogy doesn't work, as you're equating objectivity and subjectivity. Chelsea deserve to win the Prem because they are, demonstrably, the best team in the league. That's objective, and whether you support them or not, or believe that they are the best, is irrelevant.

Whether you like or do not like a band, based on their commercial success and popularity is one man's subjectivity appraising everyone else's subjectivity.

Sorry...pedantry is a burden...

Ben

[Stu H]

I think the point is, he did a bad thing, he paid the price. But chastising the festival for booking them isn't particularly fair, and plenty will thoroughly enjoy them, without being people who somehow excuse wrong-doings or crimes.

Me, I can't bloody wait!

Would have preferred Fleetwood Mac, but hey....

[Brave Sir Robin]

Sorry, but the analogy doesn't work, as you're equating objectivity and subjectivity. Chelsea deserve to win the Prem because they are, demonstrably, the best team in the league. That's objective, and whether you support them or not, or believe that they are the best, is irrelevant.

Whether you like or do not like a band, based on their commercial success and popularity is one man's subjectivity appraising everyone else's subjectivity.

Sorry...pedantry is a burden...

Ben

"Best" is never objective. Fans of attacking football might dispute that they are the "best" team. They deserve to win the league because they obtained more points than anyone else, which is how the league winners are determined. Nothing more.

You started the pedantry...

[sime]

Rubber Soul and Revolver. My two favourite Beatle albums. Infact Revolver wins for me. Great album in my opinionionion.

[efcfanwirral]

Zero going by his usual setlists. And he skimmed on the hits last time he played.

Most recent setlist here. Would go down like a lead balloon.

In all fairness, i'm not sure the absolute recent setlists are the ones to judge on, he's out on tour for this album http://www.amazon.co.uk/More-Modern-Classics-Paul-Weller/dp/B00JOF2R6Mwhich takes in the second part of his solo career, so its not really a big surprise the set is mainly taken from that, nor an indication of what the festivals will bring

That Isle of Wight setlist was more like what I'd expect, so I don't think hope is lost for a decent set yet

Edited May 6, 2015 by efcfanwirral

[mungo57]

They probably explain 99% of your posts today.

I'm actually not stoned in any way shape or form prick, no need to be sarcy.

[mungo57]

Rubber Soul and Revolver. My two favourite Beatle albums. Infact Revolver wins for me. Great album in my opinionionion.

I distinctly remember not liking Revolver when I listened to it. It was a few years ago so I will give it a go. I really should listen to more Beatles

[eFestivals]

they can trace using IP and websites visited etc.

No they couldn't.

Not in 2002, to see what had happened in 1998.

I doubt they could even do that today. The amount of storage needed for that level of data from every internet interaction going back for at least 4 years would be absolutely insane.

[bennyhana22]

"Best" is never objective. Fans of attacking football might dispute that they are the "best" team. They deserve to win the league because they obtained more points than anyone else, which is how the league winners are determined. Nothing more.

You started the pedantry...

Fair observation, BSR, but I think that you might agree that common parlance would recognise the expression 'well, they won the league because, over the season they were the best team...'!

Only the most partisan fan would suggest that his/her team, that lost the league by maybe more than 10 points, was the 'best' team in the league that year...!

A football league has defined description of 'success' - winning. Therefore, regardless of the subjective appraisal of the relative styles employed by different teams, if you win more than anyone else, you have achieved the greatest success. Ergo, you have achieved the key objective more (better) than any other team. Surely that makes you the 'best', by any sensible evaluation...?

(btw, I don't even like football very much...)

Ben

[The_Amazing_Oblong]

Does not a band/act also have defined description of 'success' - Record sales ?

[DeanoL]

Does not a band/act also have defined description of 'success' - Record sales ?

That's most popular rather than 'best'. It's a measure of success rather than quality. Arguably themost successful football team are the one who make the most money, the best are the ones that win the league. These won't always be the same.

[bennyhana22]

Does not a band/act also have defined description of 'success' - Record sales ?

Yes, in a way, but only within the confines of the subjectivity of those who choose to, or not to buy the records.

Easy example is the myriad occasions where execrable songs sold more than great ones, to keep them off the top of the charts. On the face of it, Joe Dolce's 'Shaddup You Face' was better than Ultravox's 'Vienna' as it sold more. Enough said.

In a sports league, all teams compete against the same, objective, criteria, so the ability to judge who is 'best' becomes that much simpler. The problems start when it is subjective evaluation that differentiates between sporting performance - e.g. gymnastics, syncronised swimming etc...

Ben

Edited May 6, 2015 by bennyhana22

[Bonehead> Clapton]

Rubber Soul and Revolver. My two favourite Beatle albums. Infact Revolver wins for me. Great album in my opinionionion.

My two fave aswell! Norwegian wood possibly my fave ever song

Edited May 6, 2015 by Bonehead> Clapton

[The Nal]

Just because lots of musicians do this stuff, doesn't make it alright. I find this mentality really odd. Do you feel the same way about telly presenters from the 70s, or is only musicians who get a pass?

I don't really know how I feel but I don't think saying 'they all did it' is any sort of justification.

Its not but where do you draw the line? Smacking women about like Hendrix and Lennon? Underage sex like Elvis, The Killer, Jimmy Page, Wyman, sleeping with your drummers wife like George Harrison did etc.

[found home in 2009]

Who's Next & Quadrophenia

I'd agree Who's next and quadrophenia are best albums to get into the Who.

The Who sellout is a good fun album, but its not their strongest work and I don't think a concept album is ever the best album to be your first introduction to a band

[Narnia]

Can't believe how The Who have treated their fans cancelling Paris! Hope they reimburse all their expenses already shelled out!!

[muffin]

I simply do not understand this decision. It screams of a last minute scramble after someone pulling out? (Could he be short and purple?)

As The Who did the headline legend slot in 2007 and surely it will just be a repeat but when they are nearly ten years older!?! Unlike Glasto to be so repetitive (kinda).

As for Weller... i also saw him in 2007 and he was a grumpy old c*nt who was visibly angry the crowd weren't into him playing new stuff. He was even goading them.

I think artists should be able to play some new stuff at a festival... it is what they are into at the time and the festival is about appreciating the artistry. However... Weller was being rather stubborn.

[The Nal]

..... quadrophenia......

....... I don't think a concept album is ever the best album to be your first introduction to a band

Unlike Glasto to be so repetitive (kinda).

We're out of "legends" who haven't played/want to play. The dam has broken. On to round two now.

Edited May 6, 2015 by The Nal