2014 FIFA World Cup

[Gucci Piggy]

Is van Persie playing?

[eFestivals]

Is van Persie playing?

ooo, yeah, there was some doubt, wasn't there?

I'll just make clear my words were based on him playing (just in case he doesn't). If Holland are missing a player of his quality, that's a significant hit to their abilities.

[Andre91]

Betfair are offering great odds for new customers. Argentina 9/1 and Holland 10/1.

[Gucci Piggy]

ooo, yeah, there was some doubt, wasn't there?

I'll just make clear my words were based on him playing (just in case he doesn't). If Holland are missing a player of his quality, that's a significant hit to their abilities.

[brandycoke]

I can honestly see Holland doing a similar demolition job on Argentina tonight.

Robben hat -trick, and some Argies sent off for losing the plot.

[VCK]

agreed - I tried to make that clear in what I posted.

Low scoring I can go with too.

I just can't see Argentina winning, cos the Dutch have nothing to lose and the Argies have everything to lose. I think that'll come thru in how they both perform, much as Brazil buckled under the pressure last night.

I just think there's more chance of a big Dutch win than there is any argy win.

[The Nal]

Davids Luiz's heatmap from last night!

[windy_miller]

Betfair are offering great odds for new customers. Argentina 9/1 and Holland 10/1.

[Andre91]

That can't be right. I can stick £100 on each and be guaranteed to make a nice profit.

Edited July 9, 2014 by Andre91

[eFestivals]

Davids Luiz's heatmap from last night!

he's not been believing his own hype or anything, has he?

[Andre91]

There's normally a maximum bet on these things.

[eFestivals]

It'd be the ultimate insult if Argentina won it in Brazil, in a competition where Brazil got absolutely humiliated.

I don't think that would match 1950, when they got beat in the final by their tiny neighbours who weren't even good enough to qualify for the finals (they got there cos others withdrew).

[TheGayTent]

I don't think that would match 1950, when they got beat in the final by their tiny neighbours who weren't even good enough to qualify for the finals (they got there cos others withdrew).

[eFestivals]

Not quite right, there was no final. The last 2 games of the 4 team round robin kicked off at the same time. Brazil needed only a draw to win the World Cup but lost.

ahh, wasn't aware of that.

Even worse then.

[pink_triangle]

Holland weren't great against Mexico either. I think people still have Spain in mind. There's been nothing between the 2 teams in the knockouts. I would quite like to see Holland to win a world cup, as I think they deserve a title for their contribution to the international game. I would personally include them in the top 5 international nations of all time with Brazil, Argentina, Germany and Italy.

[LondonTom]

I don't think that would match 1950, when they got beat in the final by their tiny neighbours who weren't even good enough to qualify for the finals (they got there cos others withdrew).

[eFestivals]

Holland weren't great against Mexico either. I think people still have Spain in mind.

Not quite. For me, anyway.

It's more that I have Robben in mind. I haven't watched every game (Rodrigez passed me by completely, for example), but for me he's been the outstanding player of the tournament, the one who's most lived up to what we know he's capable of (and I don't only mean diving ).

[mrtourette]

Holland winning would be hard to swallow as it would undoubtedly feature some kind of play-acting from Robben. Neither Germany or Argentina have any particularly annoying or undeserving characters.

[kaosmark2]

Holland winning would be hard to swallow because of Man U fans, Robben diving, De Jong breaking someone and Man U fans.

[adam1234]

It has absolutely no bearing on man utd though, that's what winds me up about the utd fans. There's only RVP who even plays at the club so yeah I suppose you could make something about their partnership but that's it. Maybe he will go in for Vlaar aswel

[VCK]

At the same time, people are acting as if a defeat for Holland is a defeat for Man United, when both teams are two seperate entities. On a Leeds forum I post on there are a few people wanting Holland to lose purely because "they have scum c**ts in their team", when England have had more MUFC personnel this World Cup than Holland. Rooney, Welbeck, Jones and Smalling, compared to just Van Gaal and Van Persie.

To be fair to Man United fans, if fans of any other team watched their soon-to-be manager get a side to the semis of the World Cup, demolishing Spain on the way, they'd be giddy and overly optimistic as well.

[lharris92]

Holland winning would be hard to swallow because of Man U fans, Robben diving, De Jong breaking someone and Man U fans.

[pink_triangle]

what a dull match this is though...

[thetime]

It has absolutely no bearing on man utd though, that's what winds me up about the utd fans. There's only RVP who even plays at the club so yeah I suppose you could make something about their partnership but that's it. Maybe he will go in for Vlaar aswel

Edited July 9, 2014 by thetime

[WS_Jack_III]

Told ya