2013 Headliners

[Wooderson]

My dislike of him is nothing to do with him not being rock... I'd be happy with Joanna Newsom, Feist, Reggie Watts, Hidden Orchestra, any number of non rock acts. In fact rock comes fairly low on my listening priorities these days

[Wooderson]

Rockism has always had elements of homophobia not far behind, natch.

Thus punk more authentic than "gay" disco.

[Badlands]

I dont have Youtube available as I'm at work but if you search for George at MEN Arena playing FEAR you'll have a good old chuckle. Proper 'Lounge' style.

I don't mind some of his stuff in the way I can manage a few of Elton John's stuff. My Dad used to play Listen Without Prejudice on our first ever CD player. Decent enough album.

[dan05delaney]

Looks like Kanye was up to his usual in Paris last night

http://www.gigwise.com/news/79832/angry-kanye-west-launches-new-stage-rant-during-paris-gig

[Guest]

Nor did I accuse anyone of that.

However, the thread of the discourse here has held Wham as being less than authentic for a variety of reasons. You ended up going down some odd tangent of George Michael's worthiness...

The whole thing stinks of a rockist perspective where Joanna Newsom (as per yer example) is deemed "better" than Wham. I challenge that notion.

[Justiceforcedave]

...Just looked at a George Michael setlist from recent time. No "Faith" on there nor "Carless Whisper". Fuck that!

[Big Vern]

Wham were shit...

that's all. Nothing to do with the type of music they played.. it was just crap. It had no soul, the lyrics meant nothing (to me), there was no redeeming feature.

[ghandi]

For me George Michael's best stuff was from " Listen without prejudice and " Older" . I even bought " Older" and still think it's a great album. I just can't see Wham ( ! ) . They were cheesy pop crap until George became a man and grew some, found his true way ( ) so too speak. I saw an unplugged live version of " Older" that was amazing. This is when he still had a voice. Wham ( ! ) could never IMO headline.... ever. George Michael , with his own material from those two albums, as i have said , i could see it. Why not? But please not as WHAM!

[rhysieg]

Looks like Kanye was up to his usual in Paris last night

http://www.gigwise.com/news/79832/angry-kanye-west-launches-new-stage-rant-during-paris-gig

[Guest]

Edited February 26, 2013 by tonyblair

[Guest]

lol! They were 80s and classic 80s at that selling 25 million records. Clearly not shit, but just not to your taste!

Edited February 26, 2013 by tonyblair

[Big Vern]

yea, well... there's plenty of shit that sells in the millions

Edited February 26, 2013 by Big Vern

[The Nal]

lol! They were 80s and classic 80s at that selling 25 million records. Clearly not shit, but just not to your taste!

Edited February 26, 2013 by The Nal

[Mardy]

I'd take Wham's hummable pop froth over George's earnest desperate attempts at seriousness every fucking time. 'Listen without prejudice Vol. 1'. fucking hell, if ever a title could tell you what a tool the artist was.

[Big Vern]

Westlife sold 50 million records. Twice as many. Can they headline too?

Edited February 26, 2013 by Big Vern

[Vanderlyle]

Heard Kanybe was being a self-absorbed bell once again at Hammersmith Apollo this week. Please don't put him as Glastonbury headlier. Pretty please.

[whisty]

Don't worry, there's going to be a great alternative on the Other Stage for the Rockists and pop fun party haters here.

[Guest]

I'd take Wham's hummable pop froth over George's earnest desperate attempts at seriousness every fucking time. 'Listen without prejudice Vol. 1'. fucking hell, if ever a title could tell you what a tool the artist was.

Edited February 26, 2013 by tonyblair

[Justiceforcedave]

Don't worry, there's going to be a great alternative on the Other Stage for the Rockists and pop fun party haters here.

[FloorFiller]

Heard Kanybe was being a self-absorbed bell once again at Hammersmith Apollo this week. Please don't put him as Glastonbury headlier. Pretty please.

[dan05delaney]

Again, their record sales and popularity clearly show that they are not "shit" but just not to your tastes. Horses for courses and all that. I strongly dislike Westlife for the record, but I am just not ignorant enough to label them or any other band I dislike "shit" when their success clearly shows that they are not shit.

but this is an age old arguement on these boards, people not recognising pop as a successful genre of music to the masses.

[Ed209]

Mick Jagger is probably being a self absorbed bell right now, at this very moment. Alex Turner could be enjoying the smell of his own farts on a nightly basis. Kanye just does it in full view of the public eye. doesn't make everybody else any less of a dickhead than him

[whisty]

but there would be mass outcry from about half of the ticket holders if Wham and Westlife were ever announced as headliners

Edited February 26, 2013 by whisty

[Wooderson]

Wham were shit...

that's all. Nothing to do with the type of music they played.. it was just crap. It had no soul, the lyrics meant nothing (to me), there was no redeeming feature.

[morland]

Wham? Is this a joke

Please say it is