2013 Headliners

[brettredmayne]

well WTT are out as Jay Z is a wireless exclusive

[dan05delaney]

well WTT are out as Jay Z is a wireless exclusive

[Pilgrim S]

not completely, its his only solo European festival appearance so still a chance of WTT appearing

[brettredmayne]

The way they worded it, made me think the WTT is happening somewhere, and I noticed that Timberlake wasn't an exclusive.

[brettredmayne]

Arctic Monkeys

Noel Gallagher

Rollong Stones

Mumford

WTT

Dizzee Rascal

Would be strong but so many similar acts

[Filthy]

This thread definitely needs more WTT chat.

[eFestivals]

Tax reasons? Full payment always conveniently falls the other side of April.

I maybe wrong and being very cynical.

you're right about the April sale (which is when the full sale always used to happen) is about the tax issues. But it's not quite how you're thinking.

The tickets get sold, but Glastonbury don't get the money from the ticket agent until after the Festival (that's the standard way of agents handling ticket money, in case it needs refunding) - but whether they have the money or not the VAT is due is in the tax quarter that the sales are made in. So by holding the ticket sale in April it means that Glastonbury don't have to borrow millions of pounds to pay the VAT bill (because the ticket money will be in their hands before payment is due).

I'm not sure how having the sale in October alters things, but I'm guessing (now that they only do deposits) that there's no VAT consequences from taking 'deposits' because they are not (in legal terms) a 'sale' from which VAT is due.

[sisco]

Firstly I wouldnt listen to anything the Scum said ever!! Disgusting paper which should be out of exsistence.

Timberlake is also a UK Fest exclusive according to the efest write up.

Edited February 19, 2013 by sisco

[sisco]

I think arctics, stones and mumfords are our headliners guys. Personally I think Mumford leaves it on an underwhelming note. But they are very solid. I just hope we get some female bands/ solo undercards. It seems abit male dominant.

[sisco]

Mumford and Sons updated to a SR. Little bit more info trickling through Neil??

[Ed209]

you're right about the April sale (which is when the full sale always used to happen) is about the tax issues. But it's not quite how you're thinking.

The tickets get sold, but Glastonbury don't get the money from the ticket agent until after the Festival (that's the standard way of agents handling ticket money, in case it needs refunding) - but whether they have the money or not the VAT is due is in the tax quarter that the sales are made in. So by holding the ticket sale in April it means that Glastonbury don't have to borrow millions of pounds to pay the VAT bill (because the ticket money will be in their hands before payment is due).

I'm not sure how having the sale in October alters things, but I'm guessing (now that they only do deposits) that there's no VAT consequences from taking 'deposits' because they are not (in legal terms) a 'sale' from which VAT is due.

[Badlands]

I think arctics, stones and mumfords are our headliners guys. Personally I think Mumford leaves it on an underwhelming note. But they are very solid. I just hope we get some female bands/ solo undercards. It seems abit male dominant.

[Ed209]

I think arctics, stones and mumfords are our headliners guys. Personally I think Mumford leaves it on an underwhelming note. But they are very solid. I just hope we get some female bands/ solo undercards. It seems abit male dominant.

[Jie Bie]

you're right about the April sale (which is when the full sale always used to happen) is about the tax issues. But it's not quite how you're thinking.

The tickets get sold, but Glastonbury don't get the money from the ticket agent until after the Festival (that's the standard way of agents handling ticket money, in case it needs refunding) - but whether they have the money or not the VAT is due is in the tax quarter that the sales are made in. So by holding the ticket sale in April it means that Glastonbury don't have to borrow millions of pounds to pay the VAT bill (because the ticket money will be in their hands before payment is due).

I'm not sure how having the sale in October alters things, but I'm guessing (now that they only do deposits) that there's no VAT consequences from taking 'deposits' because they are not (in legal terms) a 'sale' from which VAT is due.

[eFestivals]

I take it the acts don't get paid until after the festival then?

smaller acts do (or at least did) get paid in cash on the day.

For bigger bands, the norm is that a deposit is paid of half the fee a month before the show, and the other half just afterwards. I presume that Glasto work to this normal system, but don't know for sure.

What I do know is that Eavis has to take out a massive loan each year for the advance funding of the fest. Something that was recently reported somewhere said that he's borrowing £15M from a Dutch bank to fund this year's festival.

[Matt87]

What I do know is that Eavis has to take out a massive loan each year for the advance funding of the fest. Something that was recently reported somewhere said that he's borrowing £15M from a Dutch bank to fund this year's festival.

[neil999]

Eavis must have been worrying in 2008 then!

[Morse Code]

Eavis must have been worrying in 2008 then!

[eFestivals]

Eavis must have been worrying in 2008 then!

he did - the effect on him was clearly visible, to the point of him looking unwell.

A few months after the fest he looked significantly better. So much so that when I met him then the first words that left my mouth (in some sort of auto-pilot way) were "you're looking well".

[neil999]

he did - the effect on him was clearly visible, to the point of him looking unwell.

A few months after the fest he looked significantly better. So much so that when I met him then the first words that left my mouth (in some sort of auto-pilot way) were "you're looking well".

[Jackson1990]

he did - the effect on him was clearly visible, to the point of him looking unwell.

A few months after the fest he looked significantly better. So much so that when I met him then the first words that left my mouth (in some sort of auto-pilot way) were "you're looking well".

[JBarbour]

A bit quiet today does it mean everyone is actually doing work!

No one fancy starting up Dizzee vs Mumford again!

How about Arctic Monkeys no longer being relevant?

[dan05delaney]

A bit quiet today does it mean everyone is actually doing work!

No one fancy starting up Dizzee vs Mumford again!

How about Arctic Monkeys no longer being relevant?

[JBarbour]

someone seems bored, yeah we have had the lunch hour posts off people, seems like everyone is back to work

[oneeye]

Suffering from headlineritus; CBA TBH

I think the only question left is whether the Mumfarts sub The Stones Sat and either Gaga/Prince/Madonna plays Sun, or (heaven forbid) Mumfarts actually headline Sun; that's my current interpretation, taking into account we're on P472

Back to looking busy.............

Edited February 19, 2013 by oneeye