FloorFiller Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, nikkic said: If she didn’t take heroin her career trajectory would have followed the likes of Dido or Duffy. Sad but true. If she’d ever actually gotten around to making a follow up to Back to Black, I’m sure it would’ve been a massive disappointment and her legacy wouldn’t be what it is now. Edited February 15, 2021 by FloorFiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiloy Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, nikkic said: If she didn’t take heroin her career trajectory would have followed the likes of Dido or Duffy. So hard to tell if its bait in this thread but- Dido followed up her first #1 album with another #1 and then a #2 album whilst Duffy was involved in some mad kidnapping thing and held as some kind of sex slave and now suffers from PTSD. I don’t rate either of them myself but not perhaps a like for like comparison, or indeed perhaps fair on Dido or Duffy. Edited February 15, 2021 by mattiloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 9 hours ago, nikkic said: Barely gets spoken about here. Blur, Stones, Adele tend to be the sets more lauded over. That's the demographic of this site though. It's also coming through in the Hury and Heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, FloorFiller said: Sad but true. If she’d ever actually gotten around to making a follow up to Back to Black, I’m sure it would’ve been a massive disappointment and her legacy wouldn’t be what it is now. While we'll never know, I dunno if this is a given. Equally she could have been headlining the Pyramid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, CaledonianGonzo said: While we'll never know, I dunno if this is a given. Equally she could have been headlining the Pyramid. Maybe her follow up might’ve done well/been good considering the hype machine that was behind her, but I don’t think it would’ve lasted much longer than that, especially with Adele coming and taking all the glory a few years later. Unfortunately the drugs and booze were synonymous with Amy from the moment she got famous, so imagining her and a continued successful career without them is a tough one. She was known more for that than the music by the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 I dunno - her music has demonstrated pretty stubborn staying power. It's not solely popular just to who she was and how she died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan1984 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Not my opinion (as I have never seen it) but apparently Jeff Buckley’s much talked-about ‘classic’ Glastonbury set was a shambles? Edited February 15, 2021 by Ryan1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ryan1984 said: Not my opinion (as I have never seen it) but apparently Jeff Buckley’s much talked-about ‘classic’ Glastonbury set was a shambles? Some of it here: I'm fairly sure there's audio of the full set kicking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: I dunno - her music has demonstrated pretty stubborn staying power. It's not solely popular just to who she was and how she died. Not solely, but her persona brought her music to life. She was pretty much the most famous person in the country at the time, front pages of newspapers every other day etc. When you go out at the top, before the public has a chance to lose interest in you, it changes the perception of your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjd Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Queen are terrible and 'Don't Stop Me Now' is on par with '7 years' by Lucas Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 For sure - but I just dunno if you can take to the bank that she'd already peaked, professionally speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapple12345 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, hjd said: Queen are terrible and 'Don't Stop Me Now' is on par with '7 years' by Lucas Graham. Is the original or this cover better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentalplan Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, nikkic said: Not solely, but her persona brought her music to life. She was pretty much the most famous person in the country at the time, front pages of newspapers every other day etc. When you go out at the top, before the public has a chance to lose interest in you, it changes the perception of your work. She was the most famous person in the country five years on from her breakthrough album then? She wasn’t going to fade away, clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflekting Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 7:16 PM, Hugh Jass said: This thread has got me wondering who or what the ultimate eFests sacred cow is... Taylor? Radiohead? The Stones 2013? The National? (Surprised no-one has gone after them yet). Given me an idea for 22’s Hurt/Heal if it all gets banjaxed again next year... I love The National, but they really don't work on outdoor stages in the light. The sub set was really under par. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, dentalplan said: She was the most famous person in the country five years on from her breakthrough album then? She wasn’t going to fade away, clearly. One thing that’s not controversial... her dad is a massive c**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomicide Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 98% of acts 3rd albums are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Except for Queen where it's maybe their best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Actually it's Queen II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Gnomicide said: 98% of acts 3rd albums are shit. Gonna think up some great third albums now... Parklife OK Computer Humbug Alligator DAMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 A Hard Days Night was the first Beatles album to clarify how good they actually were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflekting Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Kasbian's headline set was actually incredible on the pyramid I thought Dolly was awful, I didn't understand the hype West Holts has about 5 good acts per year, there is a lot of filler Arcadia was better before it moved to it's current location, the new installation looks even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, dentalplan said: She was the most famous person in the country five years on from her breakthrough album then? She wasn’t going to fade away, clearly. Public would have lost interest sooner or later. Without the rock and roll persona, the music was just OK. As @mattiloypointed out, Dido had more success than Amy musically, but nobody gives a fuck now, because her music was bland as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, dentalplan said: She was the most famous person in the country five years on from her breakthrough album then? She wasn’t going to fade away, clearly. Famous for being a trainwreck and the ‘will she/when will she/won’t she’ talk of a follow up album. Like I said, her star was soon to be eclipsed by Adele for doing a similar but arguably more commercial thing. I think Amy’s next album would’ve done really well commercially initially, but people already had their new star, and this one actually pumped out hits/albums and wasn’t more famous for being an addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 They edited the footage from the TV broadcast but the best bit of The National's 2010 Other Stage set was when yer man donned a bumblebee costume and got chased around the stage by someone with a giant fly-swat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, FloorFiller said: Famous for being a trainwreck and the ‘will she/when will she/won’t she’ talk of a follow up album. Like I said, her star was soon to be eclipsed by Adele for doing a similar but arguably more commercial thing. I think Amy’s next album would’ve done really well commercially initially, but people already had their new star, and this one actually pumped out hits/albums and wasn’t more famous for being an addict. The Adele thing is a bit apples and oranges tbh. I'm not sure that their careers were a zero sum game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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