2022 Headliners

[dentalplan]

4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Taylor Swift was down to play BST in 2020 despite selling out Wembley previously...

Her stadium tour made news for how poor the sales were. Then she ‘decided to do’ a festival tour, which incorporated a date at Hyde Park. So that’s a step down from stadiums.

[CaledonianGonzo]

True - but that Reputation era was a bit of a low watermark for her and who knows what the 22 market will look like versus 4 years back.

[dentalplan]

1 minute ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

True - but that Reputation era was a bit of a low watermark for her and who knows what the 22 market will look like versus 4 years back.

Yeah not arguing that. Just as to why someone would take a break from stadiums to do Hyde Park.

Nothing to do with the thread, mind.

[Hugh Jass]

10 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Yeah not arguing that. Just as to why someone would take a break from stadiums to do Hyde Park.

Nothing to do with the thread, mind.

Hyde Park holds 65k, so it's hardly as if it's a massive climb down. The Emirates very rarely has gigs and the Spurs ground has only just been built.

There are plenty of stadium fillers who have played BST recently - Taylor (twice), The Stones, Robbie Williams, Bon Jovi, Roger Waters, Bruno Mars, Green Day, The Killers, Bieber, Take That, The Who...

Were all of them suffering sales downturns? Or were they just offered a lot of cash to play a famous venue?

[henry bear]

48 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Was it ever mentioned here that a Dutch radio DJ said McCartney was playing in Netherlands next summer? Read it on the ‘Maccaboard’ and I know it’s only a small rumour but I’m investing a lot of faith in it.

I mentioned it a while back, to little acclaim 

[Matt42]

2 hours ago, Mattymooz said:

Sure you can hold hope for Taylor but it isn't looking likely considering she is gone from Mad Cool...

And yeah, I was viewing it as he was finishing his tour dates in 2020 and then would be back in 2021 just doing one off shows (e.g. Glasto) - I don't think he is planning on quitting performing entirely... It's quite possible it still won't happen but considering he is literally playing as close to the festival as possible (week before Bristol, then a week gap till he plays Swansea) then he is set up as well as he could be. If Taylor had that kind of gap you'd be all over it.

Mad Cool was added onto Taylor's lover fest touring dates late on - don't think it was one she was raring to play, I think they just paid her the fee to get her.

 

1 hour ago, dentalplan said:

They were the biggest venues in those places though. I’d be surprised at Sheeran doing BST with there being four bigger London stadiums he could do off his own back, and him likely being the biggest ticket-shifter on tour next year.

 

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Maybe BST have chucked a shedload of cash at him, or maybe he just wants to play Hyde Park? It’s a pretty iconic venue.

All I’m saying it’s hardly a stretch to imagine he’d do it.

I don't put a lot of faith in it- they could have just put a bid in.

@jparxshared this article where a stadium promoter said there were a few artists on the stadium circuit TBA for 2022. In the time since then we’ve had Foo Fighters etc confirm stadium dates, so slowly but surely more are coming onto the market.

Sheeran would be another contender to fit this mould if there are stadium artists TBA. But it may also explain why he has had to resort to something like BST if stadiums are booked up. Can’t help but wonder if one of them TBA (which would snap up a lot of dates) is someone like Adele. The article also said that Beyonce intended to do a 2021 stadium tour before the pandemic.

Edited August 23, 2021 by Matt42

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Hyde Park holds 65k, so it's hardly as if it's a massive climb down. The Emirates very rarely has gigs and the Spurs ground has only just been built.

There are plenty of stadium fillers who have played BST recently - Taylor (twice), The Stones, Robbie Williams, Bon Jovi, Roger Waters, Bruno Mars, Green Day, The Killers, Bieber, Take That, The Who...

Were all of them suffering sales downturns? Or were they just offered a lot of cash to play a famous venue?

Probably downturns.

Acts get more for their own stadium shows than festivals can generally offer. They charge about the same or more for a show without one of the middle-men involved. Plus, 20,000 is a large climb down when you consider that’s  a few million in sales.

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, henry bear said:

I mentioned it a while back, to little acclaim 

You’re welcome for the amplification boost then. 😉

[Hugh Jass]

7 minutes ago, dentalplan said:

Probably downturns.

Acts get more for their own stadium shows than festivals can generally offer. They charge about the same or more for a show without one of the middle-men involved. Plus, 20,000 is a large climb down when you consider that’s  a few million in sales.

Taylor headlined in 2015 when she was massive. The likes of the Stones, The Who and Bon Jovi have never had many problems selling huge stadia... Given some of the names I've mentioned above I fail to see why the Sheeranator would consider it much of a comedown. It's still a high profile gig in an iconic London venue.

Maybe, just maybe, some acts enjoy playing there.

[Matt42]

3 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

Taylor headlined in 2015 when she was massive. The likes of the Stones, The Who and Bon Jovi have never had many problems selling huge stadia... Given some of the names I've mentioned above I fail to see why the Sheeranator would consider it much of a comedown. It's still a high profile gig in an iconic London venue.

Maybe, just maybe, some acts enjoy playing there.

Yes - I think it all depends on the bid, and Hyde Park is still a reputable place to play. Taylor planned to do it again in 2020, as did Kendrick, Post Malone etc which are all very popular contemporary acts. Yes you can pack more in a stadium but it’s still a solid London date.

Edited August 23, 2021 by Matt42

[jparx]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Mad Cool was added onto Taylor's lover fest touring dates late on - don't think it was one she was raring to play, I think they just paid her the fee to get her.

 

 

I don't put a lot of faith in it- they could have just put a bid in.

@jparxshared this article where a stadium promoter said there were a few artists on the stadium circuit TBA for 2022. In the time since then we’ve had Foo Fighters etc confirm stadium dates, so slowly but surely more are coming onto the market.

Sheeran would be another contender to fit this mould if there are stadium artists TBA. But it may also explain why he has had to resort to something like BST if stadiums are booked up. Can’t help but wonder if one of them TBA (which would snap up a lot of dates) is someone like Adele. The article also said that Beyonce intended to do a 2021 stadium tour before the pandemic.

Aye, it was Ashton Gate in Brizzle. Haven't been paying too much attention recently, but he said something like 3-4 acts yet TBA, and I haven't seen anyone since announce shows there, so still some names to come out the woodwork. Location puts it in a prime spot for a pre/post-Glastonbury show. 

I have a hunch Taylor is gonna announce some shows on the 3rd Sept. Last Friday was Lorde, this Friday is BRM, then next Friday is prime announcement time for Taylor's tour dates. Worth remember of course the last tour was announced in September, so until we hit October/November with no announcement, it's still too early to rule out a 2022 tour. We're approaching crunch time, essentially.

[dentalplan]

1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said:

Taylor headlined in 2015 when she was massive. The likes of the Stones, The Who and Bon Jovi have never had many problems selling huge stadia... Given some of the names I've mentioned above I fail to see why the Sheeranator would consider it much of a comedown. It's still a high profile gig in an iconic London venue.

Maybe, just maybe, some acts enjoy playing there.

Maybe. But given that we don’t know the motives, I think we should agree that I’m right.

[Weird]

Kendrick says on his upcoming feature verse that album coming in 2021.

 

How does this change his chances at headlining?

[Hugh Jass]

47 minutes ago, Weird said:

Kendrick says on his upcoming feature verse that album coming in 2021.

 

How does this change his chances at headlining?

Depends whether he’s touring next year or not.

[Hugh Jass]

28 minutes ago, Big durbs said:

I see G N R have announced a uk tour starting on 1st July ! 

They’re in France on the Saturday of GF.

[Suprefan]

32 minutes ago, Big durbs said:

I see G N R have announced a uk tour starting on 1st July ! 

Theyre in the Netherlands on June 23rd, then Paris June 25th. So thats  play Thursday, travel Friday, play Saturday. How is that going to work for Glasto. Go see em solo, itll be 3 hours of the same set as 2017.

Edited August 24, 2021 by Suprefan

[Matt42]

Fingers crossed that as we head into September / October we start seeing a bigger picture of what’s going on.

What we need is a Macca and Taylor tour announced!

[kalifire]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

Fingers crossed that as we head into September / October we start seeing a bigger picture of what’s going on.

What we need is a Macca and Taylor tour announced!

I agree with you that tour announcements will be our biggest clue for next year. I think don’t think GFL are going to even toy with announcing anything until they’re 1000% on going ahead and I reckon that won’t be until early next year. 

Much more likely we’ll get an early announcement of tours from artists (as we already have from Relton 😉)

Come on, Swifty!!

Edited August 25, 2021 by kalifire

[Hugh Jass]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

 

What we need is a Macca and Taylor tour announced!

I don't think they'll tour together.

[Matt42]

4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I don't think they'll tour together.

Would be fantastic

 

[kalifire]

Hard to tell who’s taller from that shot. They’re both doing weird micro crouches with their legs. 

[Matt42]

47 minutes ago, kalifire said:

I agree with you that tour announcements will be our biggest clue for next year. I think don’t think GFL are going to even toy with announcing anything until they’re 1000% on going ahead and I reckon that won’t be until early next year. 

Much more likely we’ll get an early announcement of tours from artists (as we already have from Relton 😉)

Come on, Swifty!!

Yeah I think right up until September we should get a few announcements. I’m expecting Ed Sheeran, Adele, Paul McCartney, and hopefully Taylor to confirm what they are doing in 2022. Outsider chances of AM announcing a date somewhere.

All going to get exciting.

[Quark]

34 minutes ago, kalifire said:

Hard to tell who’s taller from that shot. They’re both doing weird micro crouches with their legs. 

Macca's got a bit of the the Tory power stance going on

[Hugh Jass]

20 minutes ago, Quark said:

Macca's got a bit of the the Tory power stance going on

I'm wondering if there are stools that have been airbrushed out...

[Quark]

4 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I'm wondering if there are stools that have been airbrushed out...

Don't look like they've shit themselves to me, but you might be right.