eFestivals Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, thetime said: In other news how the hell arteta doesn't get criticism, is beyond me. same reason Ole hasn't been sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, eFestivals said: same reason Ole hasn't been sacked. Why would ole get the sack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Just now, thetime said: Why would ole get the sack? 18% win rate (when penalties are excluded). Just one of many reasons. Edited November 30, 2020 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, thetime said: Why would ole get the sack? Because Man United aren’t as good as they should be and he’s hilariously out of his depth for a club of their status and ambition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: Because Man United aren’t as good as they should be and he’s hilariously out of his depth for a club of their status and ambition? Where should united have been? United finished 3rd last season, with the squad around where they should of been. Not lost in the league away since January. Since his arrival only klopp and pep have got more points. Out of his depth doesn't stack up to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, thetime said: Where should united have been? United finished 3rd last season, with the squad around where they should of been. Not lost in the league away since January. Since his arrival only klopp and pep have got more points. Out of his depth doesn't stack up to be honest. With the wage bill they should be competing for the title. The discussion is then how much fault do you allocate to different people that they are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, pink_triangle said: With the wage bill they should be competing for the title. The discussion is then how much fault do you allocate to different people that they are not. That's all down to a rubbish transfer policy for years. You can't really blame ole for signings like Pogba and the likes. Have united got the 1st or 2nd best squad? Realistically no, 3rd or 4th best? Possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, thetime said: That's all down to a rubbish transfer policy for years. You can't really blame ole for signings like Pogba and the likes. Have united got the 1st or 2nd best squad? Realistically no, 3rd or 4th best? Possibly. It’s the piss poor recruitment policy that’s lead to OGS in the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: It’s the piss poor recruitment policy that’s lead to OGS in the hot seat. Well rather than than jose mate. Ole isn't perfect, certainly making a better fist of it than jose or LVG. 2 managers who certainly were not out of there depth taking the job. You really think Bruno Fernandes would of been signed with Jose at the helm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, thetime said: Well rather than than jose mate. Ole isn't perfect, certainly making a better fist of it than jose or LVG. 2 managers who certainly were not out of there depth taking the job. You really think Bruno Fernandes would of been signed with Jose at the helm? Absolutely no doubting Jose needed to go, so there’s little need to bring him into the discussion. As you know I don’t support United or any of their rivals so I’m an impartial observer. My view is that United are rotten from the top down, they spend similar money to the likes of City and Liverpool but with none of the intelligence or planning. They’re more interested in names, shirt sales and noodle partners than building a cohesive football team. They’ve become happy to go down the Arsenal route of doing just enough to stay in Europe and keep the cash flowing without actually worrying about sporting achievement. Woodward is the chief culprit in all this, but the executives, coaching and playing staff are all culpable. Solksjaer gives the impression of someone who can’t believe he’s landed the job he has, and would never dare rock the boat. There’s a reason why the likes of Pochettinho are still on the market - no respectable manager would work for that shower. It’s sad to see United like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: They’re more interested in names, shirt sales and noodle partners than building a cohesive football team. That's probably why the fans don't want to criticise Ole as nothing will change if he's sacked. Liverpool could easily go the same way when Klopp goes, a spac has been set up for the purchase of fsg. Both clubs will probably be in the European super league by then, mid table and paying a reliable dividend for the shareholders from the sale of shirts in asia. Edited November 30, 2020 by lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: There’s a reason why the likes of Pochettinho are still on the market Are teams after Pochettinho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, thetime said: Are teams after Pochettinho? Most big European clubs (including man u) have employed less qualified managers in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, thetime said: Are teams after Pochettinho? They should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Most big European clubs (including man u) have employed less qualified managers in recent years. Why have clubs not gone for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, thetime said: Why have clubs not gone for him? Who knows? Real were desperate to have Zidane back. He’s said he wouldn’t join Barcelona. United job probably came too sign after the Spurs sacking. Juve are the ones who really should have looked at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Hugh Jass said: It’s sad to see United like this. Heartbreaking. 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, thetime said: Why have clubs not gone for him? I suspect a combination of Covid and a recent trend for the big teams to go after ex players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: I suspect a combination of Covid and a recent trend for the big teams to go after ex players. He's been sacked for over a year now, you would of thought someone would of taken a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Heartbreaking. 😃 I'm sure the way dominated for 20 years, generally there isn't much sadness. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Don’t get the love in some quarters for Pochettino. There’s worse managers. There’s also better. Am not surprised the big boys are forming an orderly queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, TheGayTent said: Don’t get the love in some quarters for Pochettino. There’s worse managers. There’s also better. Am not surprised the big boys are forming an orderly queue. Which big boys have changed managers in the last 12 months? Juventus and Barca both went for ex players rather than recruiting on managerial achievement. Bayern promoted from within. I am not sure which big clubs he could have joined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, pink_triangle said: Which big boys have changed managers in the last 12 months? Juventus and Barca both went for ex players rather than recruiting on managerial achievement. Bayern promoted from within. I am not sure which big clubs he could have joined. Pochettino needs to get back in the game, already 1 year with no sign of him getting a top job he craves. Can't imagine any of the big clubs would go for him to be honest, certainly not his record. As you mentioned clubs are going for the emotional attachment of previous players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, pink_triangle said: Which big boys have changed managers in the last 12 months? Juventus and Barca both went for ex players rather than recruiting on managerial achievement. Bayern promoted from within. I am not sure which big clubs he could have joined. Perhaps if any decent managers were available, one or more of the big boys might have been tempted to change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Big up Marine AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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