thetime Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, pink_triangle said: I suspected someone may come back with this, I don't really agree. From my perspective most of the players Man Utd have brought on have been logical signings. I also think under OGS the signings have been more logical than some of his predecessors. Which signings before ole were logical? They were either not good enough or signed for shirt sales. I can count on one hand the successful signings in the last 8 years, majority being ole signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, thetime said: Which signings before ole were logical? They were either not good enough or signed for shirt sales. I can count on one hand the successful signings in the last 8 years, majority being ole signings. I can't remember which signings were pre and post Ole and how far you want to go back. However looking at squad De Gea, Lindeloff, Bailly, Jones, Pogba, Mata, Martial, Shaw, Matic were all logical signings in my view . Looking at previous signings Herrera, lukaku, alexis,blind, mkhitayan, ibra, Di Maria, Depay again all had logic behind them. Which is not necessarily the same as me saying I would have bought them all, or they paid a good price. Of course a lot of these signings have not been successful, but there was reason to think most could have been on the day they were brought. Many had no greater track record than players who liverpool have signed and have been successful. As I have always said and will still maintain, I have no doubts some of these players would have succeeded at clubs better set up to be successful. Some players have been big name shirt sellers, but big names have had successful transfer moves before. By focusing on one super agent, I think Arsenal are limiting their options and making random decisions detrimental to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Sad news about the passing off Gerard Houllier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Got a good feeling about tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareToDibble Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Gutted about Gerard Houllier. He was the first manager I really remember in charge of Liverpool. He brought us into the 21st century with some of his methods and he laid the foundations for Istanbul. That's before mentioning 2001. What a man. Love him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastynh Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: Got a good feeling about tonight... Is it date night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, eastynh said: Is it date night? Wouldn’t say date. More violent buggery in East Manchester... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Strange league with lampards title challengers losing again, the PE teacher only 2 points of Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelarmy Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: Got a good feeling about tonight... How you managed to leave Manchester with a point is a surprise. Man City completely fluffed it at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Not gonna lie... that was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Only at West Brom do you sack a manager minutes after your best result of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 11 hours ago, DareToDibble said: Gutted about Gerard Houllier. He was the first manager I really remember in charge of Liverpool. He brought us into the 21st century with some of his methods and he laid the foundations for Istanbul. That's before mentioning 2001. What a man. Love him. I liked Houllier, he always seemed a good bloke. That joint manager thing with Roy Evans looks really strange from today’s perspective. Also he seemed to have a big influence on France, although never really understood why he scapegoated Ginola in 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, thetime said: Strange league with lampards title challengers losing again, the PE teacher only 2 points of Chelsea. 5 point gap between 1 and 10, hoping that Liverpool and city remain inconsistent and we have a good title race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyoung Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Its a weird one with Chelsea. Havertz obviously hasn't hit the ground running at all and is nowhere near putting in the level of performances he did in the Bundesliga. Werner too. Though he's scored a few goals I think most Chelsea fans expected him to be a bit more lethal. Maybe he needs to play through the middle more? The performances against Everton and Wolves weren't great, there's no denying that. Even the likes of Reece James who is usually solid, was poor last night. That said, we did go 17 unbeaten so if we can get back to winning ways soon, there's no real need to panic. We've improved the back line drastically. Just got to be firing on all cylinders in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, jyoung said: Its a weird one with Chelsea. Havertz obviously hasn't hit the ground running at all and is nowhere near putting in the level of performances he did in the Bundesliga. Werner too. Though he's scored a few goals I think most Chelsea fans expected him to be a bit more lethal. Maybe he needs to play through the middle more? The performances against Everton and Wolves weren't great, there's no denying that. Even the likes of Reece James who is usually solid, was poor last night. That said, we did go 17 unbeaten so if we can get back to winning ways soon, there's no real need to panic. We've improved the back line drastically. Just got to be firing on all cylinders in attack. Interesting reading today that Chelsea haven't won against a top 11 side this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareToDibble Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Very nervous about the game tonight, our performances have been slowly getting worse but we've just about gotten away with it. If we're not at it from the 1st minute tonight we'll be in trouble. Heart says 1-0 Liverpool. Head says 2-0 Spurs. On another note. I placed an acca last night, must have been feeling ambitious/drunk: Arsenal v Southampton - Draw Leeds v Newcastle Liverpool v Tottenham Fulham v Brighton Aston Villa v Burnley Sheffield United v Man Utd 😆 There's a reason it's 805/1 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, DareToDibble said: Sheffield United v Man Utd 😆 Even United fans know its going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareToDibble Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, thetime said: Even United fans know its going to happen. If anyone is going to lose to them for the sheer purposes of hilarity, it's United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, DareToDibble said: Very nervous about the game tonight, our performances have been slowly getting worse but we've just about gotten away with it. If we're not at it from the 1st minute tonight we'll be in trouble. Heart says 1-0 Liverpool. Head says 2-0 Spurs. On another note. I placed an acca last night, must have been feeling ambitious/drunk: Arsenal v Southampton - Draw Leeds v Newcastle Liverpool v Tottenham Fulham v Brighton Aston Villa v Burnley Sheffield United v Man Utd 😆 There's a reason it's 805/1 😄 I did this last night and cashed the fucker out for 22 quid!!! Would have been worth £350 had I been patient. Fuck’s sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DareToDibble said: If anyone is going to lose to them for the sheer purposes of hilarity, it's United. Just a crazy league this season. If Newcastle win there game in hand, even brucie will be 5 points from the top. You would imagine liverpool will go on a surge of form, win 9 out of 10 to stretch away. Edited December 16, 2020 by thetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareToDibble Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, thetime said: Just a crazy league this season. If Newcastle win there game in hand, even brucie will be 5 points from the top. You would imagine liverpool will go on a surge of form, win 9 out of 10 to stretch away. If that is to happen then I think it's likely to be from Jan/Feb time onwards. At the moment our midfielders are running on empty. It's fine when they can rotate but currently we have 1 or 2 of them playing in defence and some who are made of glass (Keita, Ox). Once we get more players back I expect us to pull away but by nowhere near as much as last year. Having said that I think if any team can string together 6 or 7 wins then they'll get enough of a gap to go on an win it. I think it's between Liverpool, City and Spurs though, can't see anyone else getting up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareToDibble Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said: I did this last night and cashed the fucker out for 22 quid!!! Would have been worth £350 had I been patient. Fuck’s sake. Ouch! At what point did you cash that out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetime Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, DareToDibble said: If that is to happen then I think it's likely to be from Jan/Feb time onwards. At the moment our midfielders are running on empty. It's fine when they can rotate but currently we have 1 or 2 of them playing in defence and some who are made of glass (Keita, Ox). Once we get more players back I expect us to pull away but by nowhere near as much as last year. Having said that I think if any team can string together 6 or 7 wins then they'll get enough of a gap to go on an win it. I think it's between Liverpool, City and Spurs though, can't see anyone else getting up there. Can't see city challenging, I do think it will be a 1 horse race again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, DareToDibble said: Ouch! At what point did you cash that out? About 60 mins on the clock. Brentford was still 0-0 at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGayTent Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, thetime said: Interesting reading today that Chelsea haven't won against a top 11 side this season. They have a tactically inept manager. I’m not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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