When will this shit end?

[steviewevie]

My super secret PHE mate is bored and is talking about partying hard this summer.

That's got to be a good sign.

[efcfanwirral]

11 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

My super secret PHE mate is bored and is talking about partying hard this summer.

That's got to be a good sign.

They were pretty pessimistic a while back right? That does sound like a good sign! 

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

They were pretty pessimistic a while back right? That does sound like a good sign! 

Yeah, he was. He's had a busy 12 months. It's all got very political too.

[steviewevie]

My kid is out protesting tomorrow apparently. Not sure if it's kill the bill, reclaim the streets or anti lockdown. Maybe she'll get arrested and get on tv.

[Mr.Tease]

30 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

Yeah they said yesterday that the roadmap will stay in place as whilst we haven’t yet seen (if we even will) any uptick after schools have gone back it’s just one stage. So they still need to keep an eye on things as we open up, as we wouldn’t want to open up too quickly and risk going back a step. 

Yep, this isn't actually difficult to understand (or unreasonable) but some people feel the need to pretend that they don't understand the basic concept every time they post the daily data, and in no way is it tedious! 

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, steviewevie said:

My kid is out protesting tomorrow apparently. Not sure if it's kill the bill, reclaim the streets or anti lockdown. Maybe she'll get arrested and get on tv.

The protest I was watching was really pushing that as a big one on the live comments thing ... does seem like the numbers seem to be increasing though now ... for me though the lack of clarity about what the protest focus is ... defeats the object somewhat ... although of course it is bound to get other causes involved ... no way of stopping that 

[JoeyT]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

Yep, this isn't actually difficult to understand (or unreasonable) but some people feel the need to pretend that they don't understand the basic concept every time they post the daily data, and in no way is it tedious! 

I feel awful living in your head rent free x

[zahidf]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Tease said:

Yep, this isn't actually difficult to understand (or unreasonable) but some people feel the need to pretend that they don't understand the basic concept every time they post the daily data, and in no way is it tedious! 

I do think if we are in the same low deaths/hospitalisations/cases position in a few weeks, perfectly reasonable to expect and ask for a speed up. Lockdown isn't a good thing and should go asap

[st dan]

The government have created the calling for speeding up themselves by drilling home the ‘data not dates’ slogan though. It works both ways, and the data is certainly pointing towards maybe speeding up the roadmap.
Soon it may be difficult for them to justify why it can’t move faster. But we’ll have to see how it goes. 

[august1]

I'm moving towards a quicker unlocking of outdoor activities.

If the old tiers system was still in place most of country would be in tier 2 with shops open and indoor hospitality. Half the population has since been vaccinated and over 50's done soon. Massive lockdown fatigue for me personally.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I do think if we are in the same low deaths/hospitalisations/cases position in a few weeks, perfectly reasonable to expect and ask for a speed up. Lockdown isn't a good thing and should go asap

It’s looking great at the moment ... but could you or is there any data available for unlocking with the jabs in play .? We are part of a real life experiment 🧪 and It’s better to take a slower route than have to reverse surely ? Not long now untill we meet groups of mates again outside and that’s going to help ... I think you were saying that people were ignoring restrictions anyway ... ? So is that much more mental damage being done ? Maybe just economic at this stage ? I’m feeling better as I can see the end 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, st dan said:

The government have created the calling for speeding up themselves by drilling home the ‘data not dates’ slogan though. It works both ways, and the data is certainly pointing towards maybe speeding up the roadmap.
Soon it may be difficult for them to justify why it can’t move faster. But we’ll have to see how it goes. 

it was always data at  set dates though...with those dates being the earliest that next stage of opening could happen.

Maybe they will speed things up, I don't know...but the roadmap wasn't totally determined by data alone.

[Ozanne]

10 days till we can socialise outdoors with a group of friends again. We are getting there slowly but surely. 

[steviewevie]

Just now, Ozanne said:

10 days till we can socialise outdoors with a group of friends again. We are getting there slowly but surely. 

I wonder when spring will actually start.

[eFestivals]

33 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

My super secret PHE mate is bored and is talking about partying hard this summer.

That's got to be a good sign.

You're a mate of Dido Harding.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

10 days till we can socialise outdoors with a group of friends again. We are getting there slowly but surely. 

I’m going for my first break of restrictions and doing it one day early ... hopefully I won’t put us back into lockdown 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, eFestivals said:

You're a mate of Dido Harding.

ooof. He has a few choice words to say about Dido Harding.

[steviewevie]

Just now, crazyfool1 said:

I’m going for my first break of restrictions and doing it one day early ... hopefully I won’t put us back into lockdown 

CALL THE COPS!

[zahidf]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

It’s looking great at the moment ... but could you or is there any data available for unlocking with the jabs in play .? We are part of a real life experiment 🧪 and It’s better to take a slower route than have to reverse surely ? Not long now untill we meet groups of mates again outside and that’s going to help ... I think you were saying that people were ignoring restrictions anyway ... ? So is that much more mental damage being done ? Maybe just economic at this stage ? I’m feeling better as I can see the end 

I'm broadly ok with the dates but the school are the major infection point really. I dont see why we can't speed some elements up if cases are still staying low this time next week. 

For example, less restrictions in May for indoor hospitality. Or museums to open in April. 

[efcfanwirral]

7 minutes ago, august1 said:

I'm moving towards a quicker unlocking of outdoor activities.

If the old tiers system was still in place most of country would be in tier 2 with shops open and indoor hospitality. Half the population has since been vaccinated and over 50's done soon. Massive lockdown fatigue for me personally.

To be honest I reckon if it was a month ahead in the calendar maybe they would bring forward the outdoor pub thing, but it's so cold you'd get people either just not going (so economically not justifiable) or getting cold and carrying on at people's houses 

[gizmoman]

8 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

The protest I was watching was really pushing that as a big one on the live comments thing ... does seem like the numbers seem to be increasing though now ... for me though the lack of clarity about what the protest focus is ... defeats the object somewhat ... although of course it is bound to get other causes involved ... no way of stopping that 

World wide rally for freedom & democracy,

 

 

 

 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, zahidf said:

I'm broadly ok with the dates but the school are the major infection point really. I dont see why we can't speed some elements up if cases are still staying low this time next week. 

For example, less restrictions in May for indoor hospitality. Or museums to open in April. 

that's perfectly reasonable, but not sure he'll do it...

[Mr.Tease]

16 minutes ago, JoeyT said:

I feel awful living in your head rent free x

I don't really understand this internet thing of being proud or happy if someone finds something you're doing a bit tedious. sure, don't care or keep doing it anyway, but I'm not sure how it counts as a win, we're not in competition, you're not my arch nemesis, we just disagree on things! 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, gizmoman said:

World wide rally for freedom & democracy,

 

 

 

 

knobhead protesters. Make them illegal I reckon..

[Mr.Tease]

19 minutes ago, zahidf said:

I do think if we are in the same low deaths/hospitalisations/cases position in a few weeks, perfectly reasonable to expect and ask for a speed up. Lockdown isn't a good thing and should go asap

It is a perfectly valid argument, but does it have to be made in the "data not dates" way EVERY day? We're not able to change policy, you're lobbying the wrong people!